2014 The year of the make over?

WhoDatFan26 · 12-16-2013, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Talib skills are there if you keep him on the field. pass damaged goods

Jimmy Graham Exclusive Rights Franchise Tag

i can live with that move because he will become the highest paid TE in the NFL due to the fact he never lines up in a TE set. plus i believe that condition puts a first and third round pick on him also

(drum roll) Ingram (traded)

yep the can of worms that wont go away

2 first and say two thirds and lose Gram and Ingram. Gram you would need to replace and add a WR to equal out production. Ingram is a luxury that has been injured since day one and may get you a 3rd.

2014 will be fun

There is no way we trade Jimmy Graham. Not happening. That trade is more hurt than help.

WhoDatFan26 · 12-16-2013, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Its premature but since we are discussing drafts and free agency ... Why not

I will start with my basis.

Presently with out restructuring we are $10 over neat years projected cap, and even with restructuring of Brees contract (noted because that is the first place people go) we still have some severely bloated cap numbers in comparison to production.

Lets say Drew takes a 10M cut and we are flush going into next year. Would anyone gripe about an 8M Drew Brees? I will not

These people are free agents: (listing only names I feel notable)
Full List - New Orleans Saints Free Agents - 2014
Jimmy graham
Malcom Jenkins
Zach Strief
Charles Brown
Jed Collins
Parys Haralson
Johnathan Vilma
Joe Morgan
DLP
To resign the free agents you would have to "Find" at least $25M.

Players not preforming to their cap figure (my opinion)
Jabari Greer $6M <- Jury still out but Corey White is handling business.
Will Smith $13M <--Dude will just not go away
Lance More <- Love you Lance but its business and your $5m is difficult to swallow with Stills preforming the way he is and if its between Jimmy graham and you... You would keep Jimmy also. (Lance has no dead money associated)
2014 Cap hits- New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - 2014 Breakdown

The point of this thread is that we need to get ready to see some old favorites gone.

Has this season taught us that the old familiar names of the players we have Jerseys for do not cripple us when they are gone?

Look where we are with out:
Will Smith
Johnathan Vlma
Jabari Greer

I say re-sign Graham, Jenkins and Haralson. Find replacements via draft for the rest.

triman · 12-16-2013, 11:39 AM

Graham stays period.Villa gone.W.Smith gone. I don'tthink we stand still.Expect changes.I would like to see us make a play for Alex Mack C.Browns

Danno · 12-16-2013, 11:43 AM

Cap savings if cut (hopefully some restructure)...

Will Smith - 10.4 million
Lance Moore - 5 million
Jabari Greer - 3.2 million
Mark Ingram - 2.3 million
Roman Harper - 2.2 million
Garret Hartley - 1.3 million

Thats over 24 million of cap relief. We can bring in quite a few players with that much cash, and that not including other restructures Mickey has up his sleeve.

12-16-2013, 01:31 PM	#1
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 2014 The year of the make over? Originally Posted by hagan714 Talib skills are there if you keep him on the field. pass damaged goods Jimmy Graham Exclusive Rights Franchise Tag i can live with that move because he will become the highest paid TE in the NFL due to the fact he never lines up in a TE set. plus i believe that condition puts a first and third round pick on him also (drum roll) Ingram (traded) yep the can of worms that wont go away 2 first and say two thirds and lose Gram and Ingram. Gram you would need to replace and add a WR to equal out production. Ingram is a luxury that has been injured since day one and may get you a 3rd. 2014 will be fun There is no way we trade Jimmy Graham. Not happening. That trade is more hurt than help.
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12-16-2013, 10:43 AM	#2
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 2014 The year of the make over? Originally Posted by TheOak Its premature but since we are discussing drafts and free agency ... Why not I will start with my basis. Presently with out restructuring we are $10 over neat years projected cap, and even with restructuring of Brees contract (noted because that is the first place people go) we still have some severely bloated cap numbers in comparison to production. Lets say Drew takes a 10M cut and we are flush going into next year. Would anyone gripe about an 8M Drew Brees? I will not These people are free agents: (listing only names I feel notable) Full List - New Orleans Saints Free Agents - 2014 Jimmy graham Malcom Jenkins Zach Strief Charles Brown Jed Collins Parys Haralson Johnathan Vilma Joe Morgan DLP To resign the free agents you would have to "Find" at least $25M. Players not preforming to their cap figure (my opinion) Jabari Greer $6M <- Jury still out but Corey White is handling business. Will Smith $13M <--Dude will just not go away Lance More <- Love you Lance but its business and your $5m is difficult to swallow with Stills preforming the way he is and if its between Jimmy graham and you... You would keep Jimmy also. (Lance has no dead money associated) 2014 Cap hits- New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - 2014 Breakdown The point of this thread is that we need to get ready to see some old favorites gone. Has this season taught us that the old familiar names of the players we have Jerseys for do not cripple us when they are gone? Look where we are with out: Will Smith Johnathan Vlma Jabari Greer I say re-sign Graham, Jenkins and Haralson. Find replacements via draft for the rest.
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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: 2014 The year of the make over? Graham stays period.Villa gone.W.Smith gone. I don'tthink we stand still.Expect changes.I would like to see us make a play for Alex Mack C.Browns
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12-16-2013, 11:43 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: 2014 The year of the make over? Cap savings if cut (hopefully some restructure)... Will Smith - 10.4 million Lance Moore - 5 million Jabari Greer - 3.2 million Mark Ingram - 2.3 million Roman Harper - 2.2 million Garret Hartley - 1.3 million Thats over 24 million of cap relief. We can bring in quite a few players with that much cash, and that not including other restructures Mickey has up his sleeve.

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