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Old 12-17-2013, 10:18 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by Schmohams View Post
ST needs to be revamped, start from ground zero, fire Mcmahon...
{Screeching Brakes}

Sean needs an old friend on the staff for his personal well-being and can always lend his leadership to right the ship when it comes to the kicking game...

Note: As a member of the Coach Parcells coaching tree, Sean Payton will need to follow Parcells convention and call it kicking and not special teams as they're is nothing special about those guys...
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It was time. Graham is good. I really wanted Rackers though.
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am i the only one that thinks coverage on special teams have been a whole lot better this year?

return game has been a bit of a disappointment and needs to addressed. a dynamic returner would be nice but i look at the blocking and i rank it pretty low. most of the tackles seem to becoming from players right up the middle of the field

kicking has been well a shot gun effect for a few years now. ever since the hip injury Heartly never was the same.

now to gut it all? i am not ready to go that far.

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 View Post
The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard?
No, that was 2011. In 2012, we lost to the Packers in Lambeau and Hartley missed the game winner wide left.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:32 PM   #85
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I thought he would be gone after getting suspended to be honest. He'd get into bad favor and then quasi redeem himself. He probably would have this time too if not for that 2nd miss. Can't have that this late in the season.
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Btw, Tulane kicker is the #1 for this upcoming draft. Could we have a Tulane PK and a Tulane QB starting next year? I kid I kid.
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i need some tulane homers to give me the scoop on the kid
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
i need some tulane homers to give me the scoop on the kid
I'll be at the R-L Carriers Bowl in the Superdome this Saturday to pull for the Greenie Weenie's. Although I'm an LSU alum, I live about 1/2 mile from Tulane and grabbed some tickets to the Bowl game against ULL.

I promise to come back with a scouting report. Unfortunately, place kicker scouting reports are about as exciting as a turd floating in a punch bowl.
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Originally Posted by Schmohams View Post
ST needs to be revamped, start from ground zero, fire Mcmahon and extend Moarstead's contract, get Chris Boswell or Cairo Santos, draft a fresh set of legs like Cordarrell Patterson or Tavon Austin, then look for UDFAs for studs like Gleason. We suck on special teams and it could seriously help our game if we stepped up.
Agree, something needs to be done. I think we have some good special teams players but nobody that's really dynamic. We could really use a Fred McAfee, Gleason or Roby type, somebody that is a real ace special teamer on kick and punt returns and who all the young players look up to. We don't have a single player like that right now.

Other than that, getting a decent kicker should not be too hard. McMahon's track record at this point does not look good. Those should be the big concerns on ST's right now.
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Thanks for 09 but this has been coming for a while and he cant say he hasn't been given every chance to come through a rough spell.

Onwards and upward
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