Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED]

WhoDat!656 · 12-18-2013, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Sean Payton, Drew Brees, and Darren Sharper brought us to and won a SB for the Saints in 2009. These people preformed beyond what "expectations" are for their position. Hartley's job was FGs, and had he kicked a 60 yarder then that would be outside of expectations. Hartley attempted 1 FG over 50 yards that year and missed... everything else was 39 yards or less in regular season.

If you know the 2009 season then you know John Carney started 11 games worth 50 XTP and 13 FGs, while Hartley only played in 5 games regular season. He did not kick the onside kick in the SB.

He did kick the FG to put us ahead of Washington but as a matter of record Hartley went 50% against TB in game 15 and missed a 37 yarder on the final drive and we lost by 3 points.

Games Lost by Hartley: (in the spirit of games lost by a margin = or less than his missed FGs)

2012:
Green bay 48 yarder
Kansas City 38 yarder

2011:
Missed the entire season

2010:
Atlanta - 29 yarder

2009
Tampa Bay 37 yarder

Did he win a Super Bowl for us? No
With out his 3 FGs we still win 22-17

Is a kicker making a 40 yard FG impressive? I do not think so, that is his job and what he did in the NFCC.
In Hartley's career he has lost more games for us than won.

First off, if Hartley missed those 3 FGs, the Colts get the ball in good field position and they would probably score points on all three possessions.

If making multiple 40+ yd FGs isn't that impressive, then why is it a Super Bowl record? And they were also made outside, not exactly an indoor kickers comfort zone.

12-18-2013, 08:23 AM	#22
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by TheOak Sean Payton, Drew Brees, and Darren Sharper brought us to and won a SB for the Saints in 2009. These people preformed beyond what "expectations" are for their position. Hartley's job was FGs, and had he kicked a 60 yarder then that would be outside of expectations. Hartley attempted 1 FG over 50 yards that year and missed... everything else was 39 yards or less in regular season. If you know the 2009 season then you know John Carney started 11 games worth 50 XTP and 13 FGs, while Hartley only played in 5 games regular season. He did not kick the onside kick in the SB. He did kick the FG to put us ahead of Washington but as a matter of record Hartley went 50% against TB in game 15 and missed a 37 yarder on the final drive and we lost by 3 points. Games Lost by Hartley: (in the spirit of games lost by a margin = or less than his missed FGs) 2012: Green bay 48 yarder Kansas City 38 yarder 2011: Missed the entire season 2010: Atlanta - 29 yarder 2009 Tampa Bay 37 yarder Did he win a Super Bowl for us? No With out his 3 FGs we still win 22-17 Is a kicker making a 40 yard FG impressive? I do not think so, that is his job and what he did in the NFCC. In Hartley's career he has lost more games for us than won. First off, if Hartley missed those 3 FGs, the Colts get the ball in good field position and they would probably score points on all three possessions. If making multiple 40+ yd FGs isn't that impressive, then why is it a Super Bowl record? And they were also made outside, not exactly an indoor kickers comfort zone.

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