This Years Draft

Boccal · 10-25-2004, 03:32 PM

Well here I go again talking about this years draft be fore the season is half way over. Anyway this is my thing who would you take with the first couple of pick the Saints have (I know that we can't give an accurate draft scenario but lets try anyway. I know that we are in need at the O-line, but I would rather see us address it in free agency. These are just two of the guys that the Saints should have a real shot at this year. And I will tell you why I like them.

Ahmad Brooks - 6'4" 250lbs and runs a 4.6 great OLB. He has even returned kicks in college. We could put him and strong side, put Courtney in the middle, and put Bockwaldt on the weak side and we would have a young talented and fast LB group for years to come.

Marlin Jackson - 6'1" 199lbs and runs 4.4 solid CB who plays the run well and is good in coverage. He is big and physical and fast, would love to have this guy. Have him come in and learn from MM just like Fakhir needs to do we could have a shut down set of corners in 2 years time.

My other CB pick would be Carlos Rodgers I just like the way he plays the game.

WatchtheBlitz · 10-25-2004, 05:24 PM

Antrell Rolle wouldnt be a bad pick either if we decide to get a corner

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

bayouking318 · 10-25-2004, 05:53 PM

My top 5

Def Tackles

1. Anttaj Hawthorne Wiscosin
2. Rodrique Wright Texas
3. Mike Patterson USC
4. Haloti Ngata Oregon
5. Anthony Bryant Alabama

Line Backers

1. Derrick Johnson Texas
2. Lionel Turner LSU
3. Lance Mitchell Oklahoma
4. A.J. Hawk Ohio State
5. Kirk Morrison San Diego State

Cornerback

1. Corey Webster LSU
2. Antrelle Rolle Miami
3. Marlin Jackson Michigan
4. Carlos Rogers Auburn
5. Justin Miller Clemson

Safety

1. Jimmy Williams Virginia Tech
2. Jammal Brimmer UNLV
3. Donte Nicholson Oklahoma
4. James Butler Georgia Tech
5. Ben Emanuel UCLA

Off Tackles

1. Jammal Brown Oklahoma
2. Eric Winston Miami
3. Alex Barron Florida State
4. Wesley Britt Alabama
5. Rob Petitti Pitsburgh

Off Guard

1. Richie Incognito Nebraska
2. David Baas Michigan
3. C.J. Brooks Maryland
4. Dan Buenning Wisconsin
5. Marcus Johnson Mississippi

[Edited on 25/10/2004 by bayouking318]

shadowdrinker_x · 10-25-2004, 07:20 PM

dude....slow down man...who knows if any of these kids will even be healthy the time the draft comes?
....don\'t get your hopes too high too soon...besides..we suck at the draft
they\'ll end up drafting out of georgis..probably pollack..mark my words

[Edited on 26/10/2004 by shadowdrinker_x]

BlackandBlue · 10-27-2004, 07:12 PM

At linebacker, I\'d take Mitchell over Turner any day. Last year I had asked if Lehman was the OU linebacker that ran in the 4.3/40, but after having my head handed to me by an OU alum friend of mine, I was informed that it was Mitchell.

we suck at the draft

Not really, but ok. You judge a draft by the first three rounds, and I\'ll judge a draft by the last four, to determine whether or not we suck.

shadowdrinker_x · 10-27-2004, 08:29 PM

to be honest...until we get new guys in the front office...and coaches..yes..we will continue to bomb on draft day..last good pick we had..heck..only good pick we\'ve had in 5 years..deuce..of course..this years crop is yet to be determined...couple of possible playmakers...but nothing spectacular yet...argue that all you want..but..its just a fact..

whodatsaintsfan26 · 10-27-2004, 08:46 PM

Nothing spectacular? How about Charles Grant, LaCharles Bentley(pro bowl), Darren Howard, Courtney Watson just to name a few. The saints dont have problems drafting talent under Haslett, but they have problems developing that talent out of some players.

shadowdrinker_x · 10-27-2004, 11:48 PM

dude..watson has yet to even playa full year..one player on offense..and basically one on defense...bentley..grant...what good does it do to draft talent..if you can\'t coachthem?..whats worse..they get ruined by the coaching they do get...i haven\'t seen this weak of a defense ever...we stink on d..plain and simple..out offense is real hit and miss..and our o line is allready showing signs of slowing..we aren\'t even halfway through the year...and they\'re talking about realeasing hasslet...its like watching a train wreck...this year is a bust man...bad too...we just have to hope next year..we can begin to start over..and get it right

BlackandBlue · 10-28-2004, 08:01 AM

what good does it do to draft talent..if you can\'t coachthem?

And this is what you are basing your argument on? Why draft talent if we can\'t coach it? Your original argument was we can\'t draft talent, what is this? An addendum to your previous argument?
People, when you throw out your hot sports opinions, and claim that they are factual, without any further evidence, do you actually expect everyone else to agree just because you made the claim?
I\'m done, this is silly.

LordOfEntropy · 10-28-2004, 09:08 AM

Well, there have certainly been some draft blunders as well. In particular, the Sullivan disaster comes to mind - that was two first round picks... Stinchcomb has yet to play a game, and people are wondering if he\'ll ever fit in at guard or tackle, getting labeled as a tweener. Cie Grant, though not a particlularly awful player, is spending his career on the injured list. But the Sullivan debacle, that was high-profile. And it\'s not flattering.

10-25-2004, 03:32 PM	#1
Boccal 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mobile Posts: 139	This Years Draft Well here I go again talking about this years draft be fore the season is half way over. Anyway this is my thing who would you take with the first couple of pick the Saints have (I know that we can't give an accurate draft scenario but lets try anyway. I know that we are in need at the O-line, but I would rather see us address it in free agency. These are just two of the guys that the Saints should have a real shot at this year. And I will tell you why I like them. Ahmad Brooks - 6'4" 250lbs and runs a 4.6 great OLB. He has even returned kicks in college. We could put him and strong side, put Courtney in the middle, and put Bockwaldt on the weak side and we would have a young talented and fast LB group for years to come. Marlin Jackson - 6'1" 199lbs and runs 4.4 solid CB who plays the run well and is good in coverage. He is big and physical and fast, would love to have this guy. Have him come in and learn from MM just like Fakhir needs to do we could have a shut down set of corners in 2 years time. My other CB pick would be Carlos Rodgers I just like the way he plays the game.

10-25-2004, 05:24 PM	#2
WatchtheBlitz Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14	This Years Draft Antrell Rolle wouldnt be a bad pick either if we decide to get a corner http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html
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10-25-2004, 05:53 PM	#3
bayouking318 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 209	This Years Draft My top 5 Def Tackles 1. Anttaj Hawthorne Wiscosin 2. Rodrique Wright Texas 3. Mike Patterson USC 4. Haloti Ngata Oregon 5. Anthony Bryant Alabama Line Backers 1. Derrick Johnson Texas 2. Lionel Turner LSU 3. Lance Mitchell Oklahoma 4. A.J. Hawk Ohio State 5. Kirk Morrison San Diego State Cornerback 1. Corey Webster LSU 2. Antrelle Rolle Miami 3. Marlin Jackson Michigan 4. Carlos Rogers Auburn 5. Justin Miller Clemson Safety 1. Jimmy Williams Virginia Tech 2. Jammal Brimmer UNLV 3. Donte Nicholson Oklahoma 4. James Butler Georgia Tech 5. Ben Emanuel UCLA Off Tackles 1. Jammal Brown Oklahoma 2. Eric Winston Miami 3. Alex Barron Florida State 4. Wesley Britt Alabama 5. Rob Petitti Pitsburgh Off Guard 1. Richie Incognito Nebraska 2. David Baas Michigan 3. C.J. Brooks Maryland 4. Dan Buenning Wisconsin 5. Marcus Johnson Mississippi [Edited on 25/10/2004 by bayouking318]

10-25-2004, 07:20 PM	#4
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	This Years Draft dude....slow down man...who knows if any of these kids will even be healthy the time the draft comes? ....don\'t get your hopes too high too soon...besides..we suck at the draft they\'ll end up drafting out of georgis..probably pollack..mark my words [Edited on 26/10/2004 by shadowdrinker_x]

10-27-2004, 07:12 PM	#5
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	This Years Draft At linebacker, I\'d take Mitchell over Turner any day. Last year I had asked if Lehman was the OU linebacker that ran in the 4.3/40, but after having my head handed to me by an OU alum friend of mine, I was informed that it was Mitchell. we suck at the draft Not really, but ok. You judge a draft by the first three rounds, and I\'ll judge a draft by the last four, to determine whether or not we suck.

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10-27-2004, 08:29 PM	#6
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	This Years Draft to be honest...until we get new guys in the front office...and coaches..yes..we will continue to bomb on draft day..last good pick we had..heck..only good pick we\'ve had in 5 years..deuce..of course..this years crop is yet to be determined...couple of possible playmakers...but nothing spectacular yet...argue that all you want..but..its just a fact..

10-27-2004, 08:46 PM	#7
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	This Years Draft Nothing spectacular? How about Charles Grant, LaCharles Bentley(pro bowl), Darren Howard, Courtney Watson just to name a few. The saints dont have problems drafting talent under Haslett, but they have problems developing that talent out of some players.

10-27-2004, 11:48 PM	#8
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	This Years Draft dude..watson has yet to even playa full year..one player on offense..and basically one on defense...bentley..grant...what good does it do to draft talent..if you can\'t coachthem?..whats worse..they get ruined by the coaching they do get...i haven\'t seen this weak of a defense ever...we stink on d..plain and simple..out offense is real hit and miss..and our o line is allready showing signs of slowing..we aren\'t even halfway through the year...and they\'re talking about realeasing hasslet...its like watching a train wreck...this year is a bust man...bad too...we just have to hope next year..we can begin to start over..and get it right

10-28-2004, 08:01 AM	#9
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	This Years Draft what good does it do to draft talent..if you can\'t coachthem? And this is what you are basing your argument on? Why draft talent if we can\'t coach it? Your original argument was we can\'t draft talent, what is this? An addendum to your previous argument? People, when you throw out your hot sports opinions, and claim that they are factual, without any further evidence, do you actually expect everyone else to agree just because you made the claim? I\'m done, this is silly.

10-28-2004, 09:08 AM	#10
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	This Years Draft Well, there have certainly been some draft blunders as well. In particular, the Sullivan disaster comes to mind - that was two first round picks... Stinchcomb has yet to play a game, and people are wondering if he\'ll ever fit in at guard or tackle, getting labeled as a tweener. Cie Grant, though not a particlularly awful player, is spending his career on the injured list. But the Sullivan debacle, that was high-profile. And it\'s not flattering.