10-5

blackangold · 12-22-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I asked if you were *****ing about the play-calling in '09 when we won the SB. You repeatedly dodged the question posting stats...

Is it the play-calling or the execution, your opinion of the better play-caller has a lot to do with relying on others...

If they work, everyone loves the play. When they don't we get whiners like yourself...

The play calling in 09 was good. We had yet to see anything better; Carmichael didn't take over until 2011.

This year Payton's play calling has been the worst we have seen (since 2005). Is there any debate there?

Who do you think is the better play caller: Payton or Carmichael?

|Mitch| · 12-22-2013, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Who do you think is the better play caller: Payton or Carmichael?

Until Carmichael wins us a Super-Bowl, Payton...

Now I grow bored, so you'll be put on my ignore list shortly

Jamessr · 12-22-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Now I grow bored, so you'll be put on my ignore list shortly

What are we? 12?

blackangold · 12-22-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

What are we? 12?

He knows he is wrong. Let him take his ball and go home.

|Mitch| · 12-22-2013, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

What are we? 12?

31 And I'm ending an argument the smart way...

limitless · 12-22-2013, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Why are you arguing about me? What relevance does that have? You are just covering the fact you're wrong and don't have the fortitude to admit it. I accept your previous statement as conceding the point. Thanks for playing.

I just read your posts in this topic and maybe he is calling out your fandom because you sound like a fan from another team trolling this bulletin board. The way you flip out is kind of embarrassing if you really are a Saints fan. It really makes it hard to take you seriously.

papz · 12-22-2013, 05:38 PM

blackangold · 12-22-2013, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by limitless

I just read your posts in this topic and maybe he is calling out your fandom because you sound like a fan from another team trolling this bulletin board. The way you flip out is kind of embarrassing if you really are a Saints fan. It really makes it hard to take you seriously.

The inflection you get from reading is your perspective. I am calm as can be I assure you of that. I enjoy debate. When I post something controversial on this board everyone chimes in and starts name calling, however when you start to debate the issue everyone leaves. Name calling is a fallacy and a sign of a weak argument. Put thought into your posts and make them interesting. I do find it ironic you don't take me seriously but conversely are taking the side calling people names seriously.

Perfect example see above ^

nycsaintfan · 12-22-2013, 05:40 PM

Sadly this game came down to the final 1:54 where just like the New England game, the Saints could not run the clock out. If we pick up a first down... the game is over. I did not read through all 8 pages of comments, but again to me this is not on the defense or Malcolm Jenkins total whiff on a potential sack of Newton on the TD pass to Hixon. The defense never should have been put in the position they were in.

No matter how poorly Armsted played, which he was not good. This offense should not have as many problems as they've had inside of two minutes trying to run out the clock.

I don't think there is any other way to say it... this as bad a loss that this team could have, considering the situation.

Cruize · 12-22-2013, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Hard loss but not a bad loss.

In the past four weeks the Saints have played for a shot at home field advantage and stunk. They had a shot to lock up a first round bye in the playoffs against a bad Rams team and stunk. They had one more shot at controlling their own destiny today against a team they clobbered two weeks ago and they choked. Since a 5-0 start, the Saints are 5-5 in their last 10 games. It was a bad loss. It was a costly loss. Is all hope lost on the 2013 season? Of course not. But, the fat lady is humming.

12-22-2013, 05:22 PM	#71
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I asked if you were *****ing about the play-calling in '09 when we won the SB. You repeatedly dodged the question posting stats... Is it the play-calling or the execution, your opinion of the better play-caller has a lot to do with relying on others... If they work, everyone loves the play. When they don't we get whiners like yourself... The play calling in 09 was good. We had yet to see anything better; Carmichael didn't take over until 2011. This year Payton's play calling has been the worst we have seen (since 2005). Is there any debate there? Who do you think is the better play caller: Payton or Carmichael?

12-22-2013, 05:25 PM	#72
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by blackangold Who do you think is the better play caller: Payton or Carmichael? Until Carmichael wins us a Super-Bowl, Payton... Now I grow bored, so you'll be put on my ignore list shortly

12-22-2013, 05:29 PM	#73
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Now I grow bored, so you'll be put on my ignore list shortly What are we? 12?

12-22-2013, 05:29 PM	#74
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by Jamessr What are we? 12? He knows he is wrong. Let him take his ball and go home.

12-22-2013, 05:31 PM	#75
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by Jamessr What are we? 12? 31 And I'm ending an argument the smart way...

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12-22-2013, 05:34 PM	#76
limitless Registered Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 30	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by blackangold Why are you arguing about me? What relevance does that have? You are just covering the fact you're wrong and don't have the fortitude to admit it. I accept your previous statement as conceding the point. Thanks for playing. I just read your posts in this topic and maybe he is calling out your fandom because you sound like a fan from another team trolling this bulletin board. The way you flip out is kind of embarrassing if you really are a Saints fan. It really makes it hard to take you seriously. Boutte likes this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by limitless I just read your posts in this topic and maybe he is calling out your fandom because you sound like a fan from another team trolling this bulletin board. The way you flip out is kind of embarrassing if you really are a Saints fan. It really makes it hard to take you seriously. The inflection you get from reading is your perspective. I am calm as can be I assure you of that. I enjoy debate. When I post something controversial on this board everyone chimes in and starts name calling, however when you start to debate the issue everyone leaves. Name calling is a fallacy and a sign of a weak argument. Put thought into your posts and make them interesting. I do find it ironic you don't take me seriously but conversely are taking the side calling people names seriously. Perfect example see above ^

12-22-2013, 05:40 PM	#79
nycsaintfan 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 165	Re: 10-5 Sadly this game came down to the final 1:54 where just like the New England game, the Saints could not run the clock out. If we pick up a first down... the game is over. I did not read through all 8 pages of comments, but again to me this is not on the defense or Malcolm Jenkins total whiff on a potential sack of Newton on the TD pass to Hixon. The defense never should have been put in the position they were in. No matter how poorly Armsted played, which he was not good. This offense should not have as many problems as they've had inside of two minutes trying to run out the clock. I don't think there is any other way to say it... this as bad a loss that this team could have, considering the situation.
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12-22-2013, 05:41 PM	#80
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: 10-5 Originally Posted by TheOak Hard loss but not a bad loss. In the past four weeks the Saints have played for a shot at home field advantage and stunk. They had a shot to lock up a first round bye in the playoffs against a bad Rams team and stunk. They had one more shot at controlling their own destiny today against a team they clobbered two weeks ago and they choked. Since a 5-0 start, the Saints are 5-5 in their last 10 games. It was a bad loss. It was a costly loss. Is all hope lost on the 2013 season? Of course not. But, the fat lady is humming. nycsaintfan likes this.
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