Armstead Grades????

Danno · 12-30-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by JW418

I think he accomplished his goal....I forgot he was out there.
Good Game to build on.

And thats how you know an O-lineman did his job.

TheOak · 12-30-2013, 01:02 PM

Armstead did fine on Run Blocking. However C-LT didnt do well pass blocking again
Defending Drew
Armstead - 1 SK 2 HU
DLP - 1 SK
Grubbs - 1 SK 1 Hit
Strief - 1 HU
Watson - 1 HU

Run Blocking
Off LG 4.3 YPC 4-17
Off LC 3.3 YPC 4-13
Off RC 3.0 YPC 2-6
Off RG -4 YPC 1 - (-4)
Off RT 0.5 YPC 4-2
Off RE 3.3 YPC 10-33

whybag · 12-30-2013, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Armstead did fine on Run Blocking. However C-LT didnt do well pass blocking again
Defending Drew
Armstead - 1 SK 2 HU
DLP - 1 SK
Grubbs - 1 SK 1 Hit
Strief - 1 HU
Watson - 1 HU

I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?

dizzle88 · 12-31-2013, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by whybag

I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?

I think it was because when brees was sacked there were 3 d lineman all over him, so its like 3 players collectively gave up that one sack if that makes sense

TheOak · 12-31-2013, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by whybag

I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?

On a bull rush or a spin move, one OL is responsible for a sack.

When a pocket collapses, more than one OL is responsible for the sack.

Just because the NFL records 1 sack on a QB, and credits 1 sack to a defensive player, it doesn't remove the fault from multiple linemen.

The adverse can be also true. Drew can be credited for 1 sack and no OL are responsible because he either held it too long, or it was a coverage sack no receivers were open and he couldn't get out of the pocket.

Subtleties that the casual football fan do not always pick up on or understand.

Cruize · 12-30-2013, 01:55 PM

Some guys who may be off the books next year: W. Smith, Vilma, Harper, DLP, Jenkins, Bunkley, PT, Greer, Robinson, Sproles, Strief and Herring. ALOT of cap space freed up. The good news is only Jenkins, Strief, DLP and one of the RB's have to be replaced. The guys in house are not bad and Loomis has a way of finding talent on the cheap. Draft the best OLB/OT/OC/CB/S, whomever you can pencil in as a starter on day 1, in round 1 and go from there.

TheOak · 12-30-2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Some guys who may be off the books next year: W. Smith, Vilma, Harper, DLP, Jenkins, Bunkley, PT, Greer, Robinson, Sproles, Strief and Herring. ALOT of cap space freed up. The good news is only Jenkins, Strief, DLP and one of the RB's have to be replaced. The guys in house are not bad and Loomis has a way of finding talent on the cheap. Draft the best OLB/OT/OC/CB/S, whomever you can pencil in as a starter on day 1, in round 1 and go from there.

Explain PT and Robinson... Not making any sense to me.

nola_swammi · 12-30-2013, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Some guys who may be off the books next year: W. Smith, Vilma, Harper, DLP, Jenkins, Bunkley, PT, Greer, Robinson, Sproles, Strief and Herring.

Which Robinson are you referring to? Patrick? Khiry? Sproles and PT are not going anywhere. This franchise have loyalty to player that produce and want to stay. The only team that might have a shot to take PT is Chicago, and I can see Greer taking a paycut or reform his contract

UK_WhoDat · 12-30-2013, 05:25 PM

Kudos to Armstead

QBREES9 · 12-30-2013, 05:31 PM

This is the problem. You can let the O-Line become a revolving door. i know you can't pay everbody. I really hope we can sign Zach. Oh Armstead grade. B+

12-30-2013, 12:22 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Armstead Grades???? Originally Posted by JW418 I think he accomplished his goal....I forgot he was out there. Good Game to build on. And thats how you know an O-lineman did his job.

12-30-2013, 01:02 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Armstead Grades???? Armstead did fine on Run Blocking. However C-LT didnt do well pass blocking again Defending Drew Armstead - 1 SK 2 HU DLP - 1 SK Grubbs - 1 SK 1 Hit Strief - 1 HU Watson - 1 HU Run Blocking Off LG 4.3 YPC 4-17 Off LC 3.3 YPC 4-13 Off RC 3.0 YPC 2-6 Off RG -4 YPC 1 - (-4) Off RT 0.5 YPC 4-2 Off RE 3.3 YPC 10-33

12-30-2013, 09:18 PM	#3
whybag 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Armstead Grades???? Originally Posted by TheOak Armstead did fine on Run Blocking. However C-LT didnt do well pass blocking again Defending Drew Armstead - 1 SK 2 HU DLP - 1 SK Grubbs - 1 SK 1 Hit Strief - 1 HU Watson - 1 HU I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?
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12-31-2013, 05:30 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Armstead Grades???? Originally Posted by whybag I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead? I think it was because when brees was sacked there were 3 d lineman all over him, so its like 3 players collectively gave up that one sack if that makes sense

12-31-2013, 05:53 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Armstead Grades???? Originally Posted by whybag I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead? On a bull rush or a spin move, one OL is responsible for a sack. When a pocket collapses, more than one OL is responsible for the sack. Just because the NFL records 1 sack on a QB, and credits 1 sack to a defensive player, it doesn't remove the fault from multiple linemen. The adverse can be also true. Drew can be credited for 1 sack and no OL are responsible because he either held it too long, or it was a coverage sack no receivers were open and he couldn't get out of the pocket. Subtleties that the casual football fan do not always pick up on or understand.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-30-2013, 01:55 PM	#6
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Armstead Grades???? Some guys who may be off the books next year: W. Smith, Vilma, Harper, DLP, Jenkins, Bunkley, PT, Greer, Robinson, Sproles, Strief and Herring. ALOT of cap space freed up. The good news is only Jenkins, Strief, DLP and one of the RB's have to be replaced. The guys in house are not bad and Loomis has a way of finding talent on the cheap. Draft the best OLB/OT/OC/CB/S, whomever you can pencil in as a starter on day 1, in round 1 and go from there.
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12-30-2013, 02:06 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Armstead Grades???? Originally Posted by Cruize Some guys who may be off the books next year: W. Smith, Vilma, Harper, DLP, Jenkins, Bunkley, PT, Greer, Robinson, Sproles, Strief and Herring. ALOT of cap space freed up. The good news is only Jenkins, Strief, DLP and one of the RB's have to be replaced. The guys in house are not bad and Loomis has a way of finding talent on the cheap. Draft the best OLB/OT/OC/CB/S, whomever you can pencil in as a starter on day 1, in round 1 and go from there. Explain PT and Robinson... Not making any sense to me.

12-30-2013, 03:37 PM	#8
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Armstead Grades???? Originally Posted by Cruize Some guys who may be off the books next year: W. Smith, Vilma, Harper, DLP, Jenkins, Bunkley, PT, Greer, Robinson, Sproles, Strief and Herring. Which Robinson are you referring to? Patrick? Khiry? Sproles and PT are not going anywhere. This franchise have loyalty to player that produce and want to stay. The only team that might have a shot to take PT is Chicago, and I can see Greer taking a paycut or reform his contract

12-30-2013, 05:25 PM	#9
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Armstead Grades???? Kudos to Armstead

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Armstead Grades???? This is the problem. You can let the O-Line become a revolving door. i know you can't pay everbody. I really hope we can sign Zach. Oh Armstead grade. B+

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