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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by callmedaddy That's all a matter of opinion, I personally think that he would've had a whole half to get the record if the refs didn't call it a pass on the field and if they overturned the ...

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Old 01-01-2014, 03:01 PM   #1
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Re: Did Peyton really break Drew's record?

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That's all a matter of opinion, I personally think that he would've had a whole half to get the record if the refs didn't call it a pass on the field and if they overturned the 7 yard pass to a run I would've had to put an asterisk next to his record because it would only still be Brees's on a technicality. You're free to have you're own opinion about it, that's just how I feel.



And I didn't say everyone had something against manning, but obviously there are some people that do hold that grudge and will use it against him until the day he retires.

You live in a world where only good "ifs" happen.

If it didn't happen, it didn't happen.

By your logic Graham should have the TE TD record. "If " Drew had thrown it to him two more times in the endzone instead of running the click out he would have has it.

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You live in a world where only good "ifs" happen.

If it didn't happen, it didn't happen.

By your logic Graham should have the TE TD record. "If " Drew had thrown it to him two more times in the endzone instead of running the click out he would have has it.

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I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks.

Even then, I've only seen one angle where it didn't look like a forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.
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Re: Did Peyton really break Drew's record?

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I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks.

Even then, I've only seen one angle where it did look like an obvious forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.
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I meant "I've only seen one angle where it wasn't a forward pass" fixing now.
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I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards.



You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks.



Even then, I've only seen one angle where it didn't look like a forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.

I suspect that you and I are polar opposites on more than just passing records. You are emotionally invested in a record that is not subjective, this is not an opinion based subject. It is based purely on empirical data.

He either threw legal passes for more yards or he didn't. Absolutely nothing else matters. If it is ruled that the pass was not a legal pass then he didn't and the opinions of you and I are moot.

Now there is a subjective aspect to this and Payton Manning coming out if the game with just one yard above Drew's record tells me two things.

1. He is an idiot. He let the referees decide.


2. He agrees that no one knows what would have happened on the next play. Manning him self chose not to take the risk of one more pass.

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