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|Mitch| · 01-12-2014, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can.

I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs.

Everyone *****ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are *****ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day...

winmill1 · 01-12-2014, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs.

Everyone *****ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are *****ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day...

I was going to say this exact comment but this is another thing, Rob Ryan took over the worse defense in the history of the NFL. They said we had no talent, that we lacked talent in all 3 phases of the D. We said that if he could get us anywhere near 15 to 20 it would be a huge success. Analysts said that if we ever produced a top 10 D we would be unstoppable. Rob Ryan brought us to #4. They mere mention of getting rid of him is preposterous, absurd and ridiculous. It is time to face the facts, the offense let us down. I think d coordinators have figured us out, like they figure everything else(wildcat,read option) it is time to add new wrinkles. I think SP is so confident that even though he knows they have figured some things out, that he still wants to prove he can beat them with it. We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels. Add a wrinkle of a power run game and maybe all the other stuff works. But it seems like the days of just winging it and putting it all on Drew's shoulders are over. He regressed towards the end of the year.

|Mitch| · 01-12-2014, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels.

To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

winmill1 · 01-13-2014, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

Let's be honest, did we really try to run the ball with Ingram and Robinson- our power runners. Did they get 30 carries together like the last two weeks. No Ingram would get 6 to 8 carries. He is a volume runner he chips away at the d until he breaks loose.

Boutte · 01-14-2014, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

Let's be honest, did we really try to run the ball with Ingram and Robinson- our power runners. Did they get 30 carries together like the last two weeks. No Ingram would get 6 to 8 carries. He is a volume runner he chips away at the d until he breaks loose.

That's completely wrong. When he had good games he was good starting with his first carry. That theory is just a BS excuse people started using when he was running into either his own blockers or whoever the 1st defender he came to was.

He and Robinson started looking good when Armstead came in and Evans finally got healthy. Any of our RBs would have looked good running behind week 16 & 17 line vs week 6 or 7. I'm not diminishing what they did, just saying that when there was no blocking they all looked like crap.

Srgt. Hulka · 01-14-2014, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

Ingram started running like his ass was fire when it was all over the NFL that he was about to lose his frikkin job. Period. I'm glad he finally got that fire lit, and I hope he keeps it burning.

WHODATINCA · 01-12-2014, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs.

Everyone *****ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are *****ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day...

Excuse me? Did I mention teaching forgetting how to tackle? Sure, right, whatev ...

01-12-2014, 10:02 AM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by WHODATINCA Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can. I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs. Everyone ***ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are ***ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day... TheKillerBs, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 3 others like this.

01-12-2014, 04:01 PM	#2
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs. Everyone ***ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are ***ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day... I was going to say this exact comment but this is another thing, Rob Ryan took over the worse defense in the history of the NFL. They said we had no talent, that we lacked talent in all 3 phases of the D. We said that if he could get us anywhere near 15 to 20 it would be a huge success. Analysts said that if we ever produced a top 10 D we would be unstoppable. Rob Ryan brought us to #4. They mere mention of getting rid of him is preposterous, absurd and ridiculous. It is time to face the facts, the offense let us down. I think d coordinators have figured us out, like they figure everything else(wildcat,read option) it is time to add new wrinkles. I think SP is so confident that even though he knows they have figured some things out, that he still wants to prove he can beat them with it. We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels. Add a wrinkle of a power run game and maybe all the other stuff works. But it seems like the days of just winging it and putting it all on Drew's shoulders are over. He regressed towards the end of the year. SaintFanInATLHELL and lsusaint912 like this.
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01-12-2014, 05:04 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by winmill1 We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels. To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

01-13-2014, 11:53 AM	#4
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in Let's be honest, did we really try to run the ball with Ingram and Robinson- our power runners. Did they get 30 carries together like the last two weeks. No Ingram would get 6 to 8 carries. He is a volume runner he chips away at the d until he breaks loose.
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01-14-2014, 06:07 PM	#5
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by winmill1 Let's be honest, did we really try to run the ball with Ingram and Robinson- our power runners. Did they get 30 carries together like the last two weeks. No Ingram would get 6 to 8 carries. He is a volume runner he chips away at the d until he breaks loose. That's completely wrong. When he had good games he was good starting with his first carry. That theory is just a BS excuse people started using when he was running into either his own blockers or whoever the 1st defender he came to was. He and Robinson started looking good when Armstead came in and Evans finally got healthy. Any of our RBs would have looked good running behind week 16 & 17 line vs week 6 or 7. I'm not diminishing what they did, just saying that when there was no blocking they all looked like crap.

01-14-2014, 09:10 PM	#6
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in Ingram started running like his ass was fire when it was all over the NFL that he was about to lose his frikkin job. Period. I'm glad he finally got that fire lit, and I hope he keeps it burning.

01-12-2014, 05:23 PM	#7
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs. Everyone ***ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are ***ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day... Excuse me? Did I mention teaching forgetting how to tackle? Sure, right, whatev ...

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