We still Good

WhoDatFan26 · 01-11-2014, 07:41 PM

For all the holding Seattle gets away with it, we still put up over 300 years on them. The Defense just needs tweaks. The O-Line needs a new RT and C, we ready for next season.

W. Kovacs · 01-11-2014, 07:47 PM

I think the tweaks were made by the end of the season. Add Kenny V in there and I don't see how they could get much better except for some depth in case of injuries.

I totally agree with you on the O-Line. Drew needs time.

WHODATINCA · 01-11-2014, 07:57 PM

Here's what I think we need:

Job 1. Work on O-line pass and screen protection -- it really sucked MAJOR WIND this year
Job 2. Secondary needs depth
Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can.
Job 4. WR corp dropped way too many passes, were not fast enough on their routes, and did not fight for the freakin' ball -- I'm talking to you J. Graham, R. Meachum and L. Moore ( although he played better late season ).
Job 5. Play-calling -- really needs some work -- it killed us in several games this season.
Job 6. Drew needs to stop throwing f***ing interceptions. Period. The end.

|Mitch| · 01-12-2014, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can.

I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs.

Everyone *****ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are *****ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day...

winmill1 · 01-12-2014, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs.

Everyone *****ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are *****ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day...

I was going to say this exact comment but this is another thing, Rob Ryan took over the worse defense in the history of the NFL. They said we had no talent, that we lacked talent in all 3 phases of the D. We said that if he could get us anywhere near 15 to 20 it would be a huge success. Analysts said that if we ever produced a top 10 D we would be unstoppable. Rob Ryan brought us to #4. They mere mention of getting rid of him is preposterous, absurd and ridiculous. It is time to face the facts, the offense let us down. I think d coordinators have figured us out, like they figure everything else(wildcat,read option) it is time to add new wrinkles. I think SP is so confident that even though he knows they have figured some things out, that he still wants to prove he can beat them with it. We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels. Add a wrinkle of a power run game and maybe all the other stuff works. But it seems like the days of just winging it and putting it all on Drew's shoulders are over. He regressed towards the end of the year.

|Mitch| · 01-12-2014, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by winmill1

We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels.

To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

winmill1 · 01-13-2014, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

Let's be honest, did we really try to run the ball with Ingram and Robinson- our power runners. Did they get 30 carries together like the last two weeks. No Ingram would get 6 to 8 carries. He is a volume runner he chips away at the d until he breaks loose.

Srgt. Hulka · 01-14-2014, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

Ingram started running like his ass was fire when it was all over the NFL that he was about to lose his frikkin job. Period. I'm glad he finally got that fire lit, and I hope he keeps it burning.

WHODATINCA · 01-12-2014, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs.

Everyone *****ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are *****ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day...

Excuse me? Did I mention teaching forgetting how to tackle? Sure, right, whatev ...

|Mitch| · 01-12-2014, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Excuse me? Did I mention teaching forgetting how to tackle? Sure, right, whatev ... :rollingeyes:

No, but you did insinuate getting rid of Rob Ryan, see below

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Here's what I think we need:

Job 1. Work on O-line pass and screen protection -- it really sucked MAJOR WIND this year
Job 2. Secondary needs depth
Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can.
Job 4. WR corp dropped way too many passes, were not fast enough on their routes, and did not fight for the freakin' ball -- I'm talking to you J. Graham, R. Meachum and L. Moore ( although he played better late season ).
Job 5. Play-calling -- really needs some work -- it killed us in several games this season.
Job 6. Drew needs to stop throwing f***ing interceptions. Period. The end.

01-11-2014, 07:41 PM	#1
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	We still Good For all the holding Seattle gets away with it, we still put up over 300 years on them. The Defense just needs tweaks. The O-Line needs a new RT and C, we ready for next season. saintfan, OldMaid and ClintSaints like this.
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01-11-2014, 07:47 PM	#2
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: We still Good I think the tweaks were made by the end of the season. Add Kenny V in there and I don't see how they could get much better except for some depth in case of injuries. I totally agree with you on the O-Line. Drew needs time.

01-11-2014, 07:57 PM	#3
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: We still Good Here's what I think we need: Job 1. Work on O-line pass and screen protection -- it really sucked MAJOR WIND this year Job 2. Secondary needs depth Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can. Job 4. WR corp dropped way too many passes, were not fast enough on their routes, and did not fight for the freakin' ball -- I'm talking to you J. Graham, R. Meachum and L. Moore ( although he played better late season ). Job 5. Play-calling -- really needs some work -- it killed us in several games this season. Job 6. Drew needs to stop throwing f***ing interceptions. Period. The end. OldMaid likes this.
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01-12-2014, 04:01 PM	#5
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs. Everyone ***ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are ***ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day... I was going to say this exact comment but this is another thing, Rob Ryan took over the worse defense in the history of the NFL. They said we had no talent, that we lacked talent in all 3 phases of the D. We said that if he could get us anywhere near 15 to 20 it would be a huge success. Analysts said that if we ever produced a top 10 D we would be unstoppable. Rob Ryan brought us to #4. They mere mention of getting rid of him is preposterous, absurd and ridiculous. It is time to face the facts, the offense let us down. I think d coordinators have figured us out, like they figure everything else(wildcat,read option) it is time to add new wrinkles. I think SP is so confident that even though he knows they have figured some things out, that he still wants to prove he can beat them with it. We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels. Add a wrinkle of a power run game and maybe all the other stuff works. But it seems like the days of just winging it and putting it all on Drew's shoulders are over. He regressed towards the end of the year. SaintFanInATLHELL and lsusaint912 like this.
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01-12-2014, 05:04 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by winmill1 We should have been pounding the ball all year, that kept us in it and kept Seattle on their heels. To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in

01-12-2014, 10:02 AM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by WHODATINCA Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can. I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs. Everyone ***ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are ***ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day... TheKillerBs, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 3 others like this.

01-13-2014, 11:53 AM	#7
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in Let's be honest, did we really try to run the ball with Ingram and Robinson- our power runners. Did they get 30 carries together like the last two weeks. No Ingram would get 6 to 8 carries. He is a volume runner he chips away at the d until he breaks loose.
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01-14-2014, 09:10 PM	#8
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| To be fair, the run game really didn't work until Armstead began starting and/or Ingram started getting more carries late. I'm going with Armstead though, the O-Line started playing tons better as he got more games in Ingram started running like his ass was fire when it was all over the NFL that he was about to lose his frikkin job. Period. I'm glad he finally got that fire lit, and I hope he keeps it burning.

01-12-2014, 05:23 PM	#9
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I remember when Gregg Williams had the defense trying to strip the ball first, ex: Beastmode run in 2010 playoffs. Everyone ***ed and said we needed to get someone in that teaches tackling first. We finally get a DC who worked on the fundamentals(tackling) and now we are ***ing to revert to a strip first defense? I'd rather less miss tackles over an occasional fumble any day... Excuse me? Did I mention teaching forgetting how to tackle? Sure, right, whatev ...

01-12-2014, 05:25 PM	#10
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We still Good Originally Posted by WHODATINCA Excuse me? Did I mention teaching forgetting how to tackle? Sure, right, whatev ... :rollingeyes: No, but you did insinuate getting rid of Rob Ryan, see below Originally Posted by WHODATINCA Here's what I think we need: Job 1. Work on O-line pass and screen protection -- it really sucked MAJOR WIND this year Job 2. Secondary needs depth Job 3. Need to win the turnover diff. Need to work on sack, STRIP, FUMBLE RECOVERY AND INTERCEPTIONS. *Hello. If RR can't coach this -- bring in somebody who can.* Job 4. WR corp dropped way too many passes, were not fast enough on their routes, and did not fight for the freakin' ball -- I'm talking to you J. Graham, R. Meachum and L. Moore ( although he played better late season ). Job 5. Play-calling -- really needs some work -- it killed us in several games this season. Job 6. Drew needs to stop throwing f***ing interceptions. Period. The end.

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