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jeanpierre 02-24-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 579250)
One, possible two more big name cuts are coming.

Definitely - and a whole lot of restructuring of contracts...

papz 02-24-2014 02:23 PM

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Free Agent Top 150 - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com

jeanpierre 02-25-2014 12:08 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 579310)

If I could pick five from this list:

1. Tight end Jimmy Graham

9. Center Alex Mack

33. Tackle/guard Rodger Saffold

98. Defensive end Tyson Jackson

118. Linebacker/end Anthony Spencer

K Major 02-25-2014 08:57 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 579404)
If I could pick five from this list:

1. Tight end Jimmy Graham

9. Center Alex Mack

118. Linebacker/end Anthony Spencer

I wanted Spencer last year. He was wasted in Deathstar nation last season and would be solid in Rob's system. He would greatly improve our run stopping D.

TheOak 02-25-2014 09:34 AM

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Ohh ohh ohhh.. Light bulb just came on!

You want picks for Graham? Let him walk.

What would he be worth in compensatory picks? 3rd rounder

jeanpierre 02-26-2014 07:39 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579458)
Ohh ohh ohhh.. Light bulb just came on!

You want picks for Graham? Let him walk.

What would he be worth in compensatory picks? 3rd rounder

Should he be franchised with non-exclusive tag, the compensation currently is two first rounders - provided the tag holds...

I'd be happy if we could negotiate a first and a third round pick in this draft (if they're in the front halves of the rounds)...

Any way you cut it, the Saints can't sign, or keep, any other players when nearly 60 million of the salary cap will be committed to five (5) players, including a signing of Graham...

And try trading him and that albatross of a possible contract when he continues to break down or continues to "not" produce in "big" games...

TheOak 02-26-2014 07:57 AM

Re: Free agents 2014
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 579593)
Should he be franchised with non-exclusive tag, the compensation currently is two first rounders - provided the tag holds...



I'd be happy if we could negotiate a first and a third round pick in this draft (if they're in the front halves of the rounds)...



Any way you cut it, the Saints can't sign, or keep, any other players when nearly 60 million of the salary cap will be committed to five (5) players, including a signing of Graham...



And try trading him and that albatross of a possible contract when he continues to break down or continues to "not" produce in "big" games...


Here is my wash and hesitation with the non-exclusive tag..... It's lower than the exclusive tag so here are the possibilities.

1. He doesn't ink a deal with another team, you just lowballed the sh1t out of him and that WILL effect his performance and morale for an entire season. You also risk souring the locker room because of how you lowballed him. He is well liked.

2. Have you ever heard of a team picking up a player on the non-exclusive? I can't find any evidence of it. Play GM for a minute, you are going to have to give him what he wants for him to ink, so that costs you 11m/year AND 2 first round draft picks. You going to give that up for Jimmy Graham?

3. What if he refuses to sign the NE tag? You just soured JG, the locker room, and didn't get a damn thing from it.

Or you let him walk as an RFA with a First round tender and see what you get. Plus a compensatory pick the following season.

hagan714 02-27-2014 05:53 AM

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non-exclusive tag does not seem to produce the fear it once did.

look at the picks the rams got from washington or the cleveland trade with the colts.

Collective bargaining agreement and the rookie cap has changed every thing. i think thats why teams no longer use it as much

I think this would be the would be the first time a player like graham would get that tag since the new Collective bargaining agreement has been put in place.

jeanpierre 02-27-2014 06:40 AM

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jeanpierre 02-27-2014 06:48 PM

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New Orleans Saints holding early discussions with several potential free agents, sources say | NOLA.com


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