Jimmy Graham Contract

jeanpierre · 02-28-2014, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I'm having fits with this "sign and trade".....

Why do you want to intentionally inflict a minimum 7-12 million dollars worth of dead money on your self?

It's like...... Buying a brand new Porche Panamerra Turbo Executive S, then driving it to a Honda lot and trading it in on 3 Hondas. Jesus, you just lost a whole Honda's worth of depreciation.

It's gambling with a CC cash advance to pay the rent.

Well, a sign and trade could offer the flexibility whereby the guaranteed money in the contract would be there to assure Graham, but the contract could be structured to minimize the hit the Saints cap would take this season...

Another option would be to simply tag as a Tight End and trade as the link to the Kristian Garic article proposes, as has several Saints fans at this site have done for weeks; in that scenario, a cap on the Graham contract hit would be minimized or capped...

Really against assigning that much money to such a small part of the roster - what happens when you're Porche Panamerra Turbo Executive S (nice selection) breaks down?!? You've got a gorgeous date getting anxious while you're thumbing it on the interstate...

TheOak · 02-28-2014, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, a sign and trade could offer the flexibility whereby the guaranteed money in the contract would be there to assure Graham, but the contract could be structured to minimize the hit the Saints cap would take this season...

Another option would be to simply tag as a Tight End and trade as the link to the Kristian Garic article proposes, as has several Saints fans at this site have done for weeks; in that scenario, a cap on the Graham contract hit would be minimized or capped...

Really against assigning that much money to such a small part of the roster - what happens when you're Porche Panamerra Turbo Executive S (nice selection) breaks down?!? You've got a gorgeous date getting anxious while you're thumbing it on the interstate...

Fine in theory.... Sh1t won't float in reality.

Tagging and trading is the worst option. A 6.7m tag instantly becomes 6.7m in dead money when traded, that's basically all of our cap space.

Now you have to cut players to sign free agents, cut players to sign original draft picks, cut players to sign new draft picks..... You have to cut players to sign a practice squad.

While I can appreciate the possibility, there is no plausibility to Jimmy Graham wanting to sign a contract with minimal salary and minimal guaranteed/signing bonus.

To have less dead money this season his contract can't have more than a first year salary of 730k, and no larger total signing bonus of 6m.

1. No one would sign ^ crap.
2. Least we have become human barterers and forgotten the human aspect. You are trading him and he knows that as soon as he sees ^ crap. "If" he was considering that offer you just burnt any home town discount possibility because you are kicking him out of New Orleans and separating him from Drew for a few drat picks.

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02-28-2014, 05:17 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by TheOak I'm having fits with this "sign and trade"..... Why do you want to intentionally inflict a minimum 7-12 million dollars worth of dead money on your self? It's like...... Buying a brand new Porche Panamerra Turbo Executive S, then driving it to a Honda lot and trading it in on 3 Hondas. Jesus, you just lost a whole Honda's worth of depreciation. It's gambling with a CC cash advance to pay the rent. Well, a sign and trade could offer the flexibility whereby the guaranteed money in the contract would be there to assure Graham, but the contract could be structured to minimize the hit the Saints cap would take this season... Another option would be to simply tag as a Tight End and trade as the link to the Kristian Garic article proposes, as has several Saints fans at this site have done for weeks; in that scenario, a cap on the Graham contract hit would be minimized or capped... Really against assigning that much money to such a small part of the roster - what happens when you're Porche Panamerra Turbo Executive S (nice selection) breaks down?!? You've got a gorgeous date getting anxious while you're thumbing it on the interstate...
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02-28-2014, 05:38 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Jimmy Graham Contract Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, a sign and trade could offer the flexibility whereby the guaranteed money in the contract would be there to assure Graham, but the contract could be structured to minimize the hit the Saints cap would take this season... Another option would be to simply tag as a Tight End and trade as the link to the Kristian Garic article proposes, as has several Saints fans at this site have done for weeks; in that scenario, a cap on the Graham contract hit would be minimized or capped... Really against assigning that much money to such a small part of the roster - what happens when you're Porche Panamerra Turbo Executive S (nice selection) breaks down?!? You've got a gorgeous date getting anxious while you're thumbing it on the interstate... Fine in theory.... Sh1t won't float in reality. Tagging and trading is the worst option. A 6.7m tag instantly becomes 6.7m in dead money when traded, that's basically all of our cap space. Now you have to cut players to sign free agents, cut players to sign original draft picks, cut players to sign new draft picks..... You have to cut players to sign a practice squad. While I can appreciate the possibility, there is no plausibility to Jimmy Graham wanting to sign a contract with minimal salary and minimal guaranteed/signing bonus. To have less dead money this season his contract can't have more than a first year salary of 730k, and no larger total signing bonus of 6m. 1. No one would sign ^ crap. 2. Least we have become human barterers and forgotten the human aspect. You are trading him and he knows that as soon as he sees ^ crap. "If" he was considering that offer you just burnt any home town discount possibility because you are kicking him out of New Orleans and separating him from Drew for a few drat picks.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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