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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ikecomp First we need to get rid of the 12 different screen plays we run. No team needs that many screen plays. Second, sean payton needs to let his highly paid OC call plays. Lastly, we need ...

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Old 01-13-2014, 03:36 PM   #1
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First we need to get rid of the 12 different screen plays we run. No team needs that many screen plays. Second, sean payton needs to let his highly paid OC call plays. Lastly, we need to start playing with a little tempo. I know payton wants to create the ultimate formation mismatches every play but sometimes increasing the tempo does just as good because it gives the opponent no time to adjust even if they know what's coming.

Too many times did I see delay of games and wasted timeouts because of late substitutions, late play calls and brees spending 15 seconds to move players around. Simplify and execute.
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...we need to start playing with a little tempo. I know payton wants to create the ultimate formation mismatches every play but sometimes increasing the tempo does just as good because it gives the opponent no time to adjust even if they know what's coming...
I'd like to see them run some no huddle too. Not all the time but when they think they've got a mismatch on the field, don't let it off the hook.
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I think it's entirely possible that we might have a tell, on the screen plays in particular, that tips people off -- a signal, even beyond just being ridiculously overly predictable in when we call them. It could be something as simple as a lineman tilting his weight to one side, a certain guy leaving the huddle first when a screen is called, or a chin strap unbuckled. Because this year our screens have just been completely BLOWN UP, by almost everybody, except the absolute weakest, worst teams, where they still seem to work. But against anybody good, there's just been nothing there all year -- it's like they know the play is coming, especially against Seattle.
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Philly runs out the clock faster than we attempt a comeback ... Brees wasted at least 8 Minutes letting the clock hit 1 every darn play throughout the game ... Can you imagine what could've happened with 8 extra minutes just as the tide was turning out way ? Why give the defense extra time ? That's like fighting mike Tyson and allowing him to cock back
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Philly runs out the clock faster than we attempt a comeback ... Brees wasted at least 8 Minutes letting the clock hit 1 every darn play throughout the game ... Can you imagine what could've happened with 8 extra minutes just as the tide was turning out way ? Why give the defense extra time ? That's like fighting mike Tyson and allowing him to cock back

The adverse puts our defense on the field 8 extra minutes. No thanks.
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Heck in fact the only time we were able to move the ball effectively was during the hurry up ! Sean Payton can really take a page from chip Kelly
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Heck in fact the only time we were able to move the ball effectively was during the hurry up ! Sean Payton can really take a page from chip Kelly
100% on this. It had the Seattle D rattled too.
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By burn the play book. Most plays are built off of a slew of basic plays....

However, the basic plays are tailored by Sean Payton to fit two things. The players/personnel package that will execute, and what the play looks like pre-snap. Both need to change.

We probably run a dozen or so plays out of the same pre-snap formation, those presnap formations need to change and we need fewer personnel packages.

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McMahon has to go.
Jenkins has to go.
Smith has to go.
These three alone would make me happy.
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QB-Restructure Brees - can not be done this year unless some one wants to shell millions and i means of dollars up front. plus i think there is something in collect bargain against it.

But i think he can get a totally new contract. i think Brady and the Pats did it. Maybe that is why there is a rule against it. have to do some reading on that one
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