Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)
 

*In my preacher from a baptist church voice* Preach on, brother Danno!!!! Mmmmmmmhmmmmmm!!!!!! I said amen, and amen again!!!!!

Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)
 

Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)
 

I think you may be over thinking the anti-trust concern. Nearly all companies have pay bands for each job description they have, salary is salary.

Example: QBs pay band is (500k-1m for non starters)
(3m - 10m for starters)
Team decides where they fall in that pay band.

I wouldn't delve into a performance incentive bonus program as the whole ocean of ambiguous accountability that is the NFL as we presently know it would defiantly implode if a wrong call by a referee cost a player a bonus.

Where is the motivation? Certainly a player that will play for 10 million a year will play just as hard for 2 million a year. If not, there is the CFL or they are welcome to test the job market with their unused degree in whatever field they chose to study. Good luck pulling 6 figures with a Physical Education degree, or a Marketing degree and zero experience.

Remember.... There was a time when players played till they broke and bled for less than 100k/year.

If all fk that doesn't work there is a sizable delta between the QB pay bands, big enough to play your best or the next week when you don't start your check reflects the lower pay band.

Personally I have a freakin issue with something called "work out bonus". It's their job.

As I see it the league is responsible for healthcare and a salary within the pay-band. The onus for all other income a player wants or feels he needs falls on that player. He can go out and seek enforcements.

An 18 year old soldier has the burden of staying alive and keeping his buddies alive. These college educated 23+ year olds can't balance their own check book and manage their own urges.

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If you are going to cap how much players earn... shouldn't we also cap what the owners and league earns?

If they hit a certain threshold, the excess goes into a public fund/scholarships/etc...

I never understood why people had so many issues with how much "players" made.
I always felt that the public was closer to the level of the "players" and therefor should sympathize with the "players" more than they do to the "owners."
Seems I was wrong.

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Few companies have anti-trust status, whole different set of rules...

LOL - not laughing at you, laughing at the hypocrisy of these players and their "college educations"...

They're some that truly improve themselves - applaud that and that's the way it should be; most have study hall with tutors as well as "special assistance" when taking examinations...

Then, there's the ever challenging curriculum with examples such as Urban Planning Engineering, Hotel Business Management, Sub-Continental Studies, or my personal favorite, Kinesiological Exercise Science (formerly Phys-Ed)...

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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)
 

Antitrust for the NFL centers more around collusion, conduct, and market. Antitrust in the NFL's case is why there are no games on Friday or Saturday because that would infringe on College and HS Football... College football viewership is the biggest concern.

Obviously any ideas you or I have would never float past the NFLPA unless there is hefty comp beyond salary and bonus. However, after that was done you could do away with the NFLPA.

Also, if you can cap rookies you can implement paybands.

If pay bands were implemented you put Condon back in jeans because it would severely strip his income. ;)

Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)
 

I say Smith, Thomas, Moore and Robinson. Possibly Harper and Sproles. KRob and Ingram will get a ton of playing time next year. Greer and Lewis could be a top 3 CB tandem next year. Add Bunkley to the cut list. Hicks and Jenkins have pushed him out

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You ask if it would it hurt to let Jenkins, I say no!! But I would keep Harper. He excells in the run game. Another good CB would allow a ball-hawk to be brought in, why pay Jenkins when you can up-grade. Robbinson will be back.

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anti-trust status has to do with the non profit tax status the NFL has - nothing more - nothing less.

Why Does the National Football League Deserve Tax-Exempt Status?

You may not know it, but the National Football League is a nonprofit organization. It may seem absurd that a collection of teams that generated at least $9 billion in revenue last season would be given tax-exempt status, but the NFL is technically classified as a 501(c)6 organization. Here's how the IRS describes 501(c)6 tax-exempt status:

Here's how the IRS describes 501(c)6 tax-exempt status:

Section 501(c)(6) of the Internal Revenue Code provides for the exemption of business leagues, chambers of commerce, real estate boards, boards of trade and professional football leagues, which are not organized for profit and no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

blah blah blah

The important thing here is that we the people granted the NFL this tax exemption, even if it was decades ago (Just as we granted the leagues the anti-trust exemption for negotiating television broadcast contracts.). As a result, we can revoke that exemption if the league blacks out its fans, forces fans to pay for personal seat licenses, extorts public money from municipalities by threatening to move teams, etc.The NFL may technically be a non-profit, but it sure as hell isn't acting in the public interest.

Brian Frederick: Why Does the National Football League Deserve Tax-Exempt Status?

the part i keep harping on is

extorts public money from municipalities by threatening to move teams, etc (they do it all the time.)

this is were tax payer need to establish rights to protect there investment due to the tax money they invest into teams every year.

Now common sense will make you lao and feel like a fool when you understand the screwing the NFL gives us taxpayers. The NFL like all major corporations in America they do not pay their fair share taxes and have not been doing so since the 1960s. this is one more example of how un patriotic most of the companies are here in America. yet we let it continue and carry them on our backs.

ok off the soap box

so with that put to bed

who gets cut? any player with minimal dead cap money next year is on the hot seat. those with expiring contracts are in the fire.

Originally Posted by Danno http://blackandgold.com/bngforum/buttons/viewpost.gif

So we're about 14 over and we'll need at least 8 million for Graham, so who do you cut?

I know Loomis will likely restructure several players but this kinda gives yo a good indicator who may be asked to restructure or clean out their locker..

Approximated cap savings if cut (hopefully some restructure)...
Cap hit minus dead money = Cap savings if cut
Will Smith - 13,902,451 - 2,352,451 = 11,550,000
Darren Sproles - 4,250,000 - 750,000 = 3,500,000
Jabari Greer - 5,825,000 – 2,650,000 = 3,175,000
Pierre Thomas – 2,900,000 – 0 = 2,900,000
Lance Moore - 5,068,750 - 2,357,500 = 2,711,250
Roman Harper - 5,870,000 - 3,690,000 = 2,180,000
Mark Ingram - 2,359,875 - 973,500 = 1,386,375
Patrick Robinson - 2,804,333 - 1,446,833 = 1,357,500

Danno has a good start on the list of players on the hot seat