TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1

Euphoria · 02-24-2014, 07:39 PM

Leaning towards a WR in round 1 but I think that only opens up for the possibility of trading back and getting more picks. Get us more bodies and more possible gems to polish.

...and it becomes cheaper for us!!!

Danno · 02-24-2014, 07:47 PM

All draft picks are cheap now

saintfan · 02-24-2014, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

All draft picks are cheap now

Yeah, and it's all a crap shoot anyway...

Danno · 02-24-2014, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Yeah, and it's all a crap shoot anyway...

Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders?

saintfan · 02-24-2014, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders?

As many "late rounders" and street free agents and walk on's that we hear about, I'd almost be for it.

As I've said or at least I'm saying now, they can evaluate all day (and night). It's not a complete waste of time. Still, at the end of the day, there have only been a very few "sure things" in the NFL draft that ever proved themselves as such. Far more crashed and burned.

They're measuring the wrong things. They should all have to pass an evaluation by Dr Phil before they're allowed to declare themselves eligible.

Danno · 02-24-2014, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

As many "late rounders" and street free agents and walk on's that we hear about, I'd almost be for it.

As I've said or at least I'm saying now, they can evaluate all day (and night). It's not a complete waste of time. Still, at the end of the day, there have only been a very few "sure things" in the NFL draft that ever proved themselves as such. Far more crashed and burned.

They're measuring the wrong things. They should all have to pass an evaluation by Dr Phil before they're allowed to declare themselves eligible.

Well its a fact that 1st rounders have a higher percentage of success than 2nd rounders, and 2nd rounders have a higher percentage of success than 3rd rounders, and 3rd rounders have a higher percentage of success than 4th rounders, and so on.

But, has anyone run the stats on 20 or so arbitrary 7th rounders having more success than a 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th, and 6th rounder combined?

That might be an interesting comparison, twenty 7th rounder picks versus a traditional 1st thru 6th round draft.

But as I've pointed out quite successfully on numerous occasions, the draft is in no way shape or form a crap shoot.

FeelTheBrees · 02-24-2014, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders?

Discount Belichick

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders?

Because you can't afford 20 more players at camp. Your broke remember.

Besides, id rather have the best 4 from the first 4 rounds than the best 10 out of the 7th.

saintfan · 02-24-2014, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Because you can't afford 20 more players at camp. Your broke remember.

Besides, id rather have the best 4 from the first 4 rounds than the best 10 out of the 7th.

See. You're a high-roller!

Jack Vegas · 02-25-2014, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Because you can't afford 20 more players at camp. Your broke remember.

Besides, id rather have the best 4 from the first 4 rounds than the best 10 out of the 7th.

Not true. Only the highest-paid 51 players (or is it 53 players, I'm not sure which) count against the salary cap. You can have as many players you want after that. In theory.

I think trading out of the first round is a very good idea if there's not a player there you really want. If this really is the deepest draft in 15 years like some people are saying then teams will be pulling a lot of very good players out of the 3rd and 4th rounds. I could see trading our first for a high-ish 2nd and a couple 3rds and making out like bandits on that deal.

02-24-2014, 07:39 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Leaning towards a WR in round 1 but I think that only opens up for the possibility of trading back and getting more picks. Get us more bodies and more possible gems to polish. ...and it becomes cheaper for us!!!

02-24-2014, 07:47 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 All draft picks are cheap now

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by Danno All draft picks are cheap now Yeah, and it's all a crap shoot anyway...

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by saintfan Yeah, and it's all a crap shoot anyway... Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders? hagan714, foreverfan and FeelTheBrees like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by Danno Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders? As many "late rounders" and street free agents and walk on's that we hear about, I'd almost be for it. As I've said or at least I'm saying now, they can evaluate all day (and night). It's not a complete waste of time. Still, at the end of the day, there have only been a very few "sure things" in the NFL draft that ever proved themselves as such. Far more crashed and burned. They're measuring the wrong things. They should all have to pass an evaluation by Dr Phil before they're allowed to declare themselves eligible.
	C'mon Man...

02-24-2014, 08:24 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by saintfan As many "late rounders" and street free agents and walk on's that we hear about, I'd almost be for it. As I've said or at least I'm saying now, they can evaluate all day (and night). It's not a complete waste of time. Still, at the end of the day, there have only been a very few "sure things" in the NFL draft that ever proved themselves as such. Far more crashed and burned. They're measuring the wrong things. They should all have to pass an evaluation by Dr Phil before they're allowed to declare themselves eligible. Well its a fact that 1st rounders have a higher percentage of success than 2nd rounders, and 2nd rounders have a higher percentage of success than 3rd rounders, and 3rd rounders have a higher percentage of success than 4th rounders, and so on. But, has anyone run the stats on 20 or so arbitrary 7th rounders having more success than a 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th, and 6th rounder combined? That might be an interesting comparison, twenty 7th rounder picks versus a traditional 1st thru 6th round draft. But as I've pointed out quite successfully on numerous occasions, the draft is in no way shape or form a crap shoot.

02-24-2014, 08:18 PM	#7
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by Danno Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders? Discount Belichick
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02-24-2014, 08:58 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by Danno Then why not trade down every round and get 20 7th rounders? Because you can't afford 20 more players at camp. Your broke remember. Besides, id rather have the best 4 from the first 4 rounds than the best 10 out of the 7th. Danno and Rugby Saint II like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by TheOak Because you can't afford 20 more players at camp. Your broke remember. Besides, id rather have the best 4 from the first 4 rounds than the best 10 out of the 7th. See. You're a high-roller! foreverfan likes this.

02-25-2014, 01:03 PM	#10
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: TRADE OUT OF ROUND 1 Originally Posted by TheOak Because you can't afford 20 more players at camp. Your broke remember. Besides, id rather have the best 4 from the first 4 rounds than the best 10 out of the 7th. Not true. Only the highest-paid 51 players (or is it 53 players, I'm not sure which) count against the salary cap. You can have as many players you want after that. In theory. I think trading out of the first round is a very good idea if there's not a player there you really want. If this really is the deepest draft in 15 years like some people are saying then teams will be pulling a lot of very good players out of the 3rd and 4th rounds. I could see trading our first for a high-ish 2nd and a couple 3rds and making out like bandits on that deal.
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