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B_Dub_Saint 02-27-2014 07:47 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
One of the big problems will be locker room chemistry. If a bunch of guys like Pierre, Sproles, ect. take a pay cut and know the money is going to Jimmy, there might be a bit of jealousy in the players.

Look, all of the players make a hell of a lot of money but when your on that level, it's about how much more you have than your counterpart. Sure having a Ferrari is cool but having one that is rare and a one of a kind is cooler. It's how wealthy people think. You are always trying to one up another person.

I believe this is silly but it exist and it's real. Life isn't fair and neither is making money. When it all boils down and the BS is brushed away, it's all about the balance in your bank account.

I hope Jimmy and his agent can be realistic about this contract but money talks and BS walks. This is the truth no matter how your spin it.

TheOak 02-28-2014 06:00 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
The 12m shouldn't shock anyone or be offensive, it is the logical value set by the Saints front office and there is no greed involved. It's actually not even the intentional absurdly huge start of negation figure.

Play agent for a bit. You were just told the Saints want to tag your player. Why do they tag players? To avoid paying them the big number they think the player is worth for 1 season..... So they just telegraphed that your player is worth more than the tag but they are trying to get out of paying it. What is your players roll in that offense? Not his position but what does he play as? A wide receiver. What's the WR tag? 11.7m, team alluded to him being worth more than that so you go for slightly above the WR tag.

12M

As far as the comment that none of us know or have negotiated employment benefits... That statement is ignorant and absurd. 120k/year or 12m/year it is the same negotiation and hiring, it just has a few more zeros.

This pickle is BECAUSE Jimmy being tagged was leaked and discussed. Loomis should have gone at him with 8m/year from the start and never mentioned the tag. The "Franchise Tag" muddied these waters.

Schmohams 02-28-2014 12:04 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
If we can't pay him what the hell will I do with his jersey?


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Danno 02-28-2014 01:37 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 579983)
If we can't pay him what the hell will I do with his jersey?


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Sell it to someone named Graham. You shouldn't be wearing another man's jersey anyway. That's what girlfriends do.

TheOak 02-28-2014 01:42 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 579983)
If we can't pay him what the hell will I do with his jersey?


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Change the number.

TheOak 02-28-2014 01:51 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
The whole "who is or isn't expendable" made me think... I do not think that is the relevant question.

The relevant question is what wins Championships? QBs, and Defenses... not Tight Ends

Falcons have had Gonzalez for 5 years. Nada
Kellen Winslow made it to one
Shannon Sharpe had a few but that was Elway
Name a Tight End that has been the reason a team made it to the Super Bowl or won it?

Never been a TE SB MVP

Never been a TE League MVP

NonieT 02-28-2014 02:19 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
Trade him to Miami for Dion Jordon and a 1st rounder.

TheOak 02-28-2014 02:22 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
Put him a box with cats and throw him in the river

voodooido 02-28-2014 07:10 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 579899)
Exactly how do you trade a player that's not under contract? Unless Jimmy is tagged, he is a free agent as of March 11th. If he is tagged, the Saints still do not own his rights until he signs the tender.

A sign and trade works for restricted free agents because the team still holds the rights to the player. But not UFAs.

SFIAH

A sign and trade is what I meant. Sry for the confusion.

exile 02-28-2014 07:13 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?
 
Heath Evans: " 6'6" 4.5 isn't in this draft." All that needs to be said.


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