Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Defensive backs fly at combine

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; (Mike Triplett) The NFL scouting combine wrapped up Tuesday with some impressive workouts from many of the top defensive backs. That's good news for the New Orleans Saints, since I think that position group ranks as their No. 1 need ...

Like Tree13Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2014, 10:22 AM   #1
Threaded by TheOak
10000 POST CLUB
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,026

Show Printable Version Email this Page
Rating: (0 votes - average)

(Mike Triplett)

The NFL scouting combine wrapped up Tuesday with some impressive workouts from many of the top defensive backs. That's good news for the New Orleans Saints, since I think that position group ranks as their No. 1 need this offseason -- especially when you lump the cornerbacks and safeties together.

I think the Saints will address at least one of those positions in free agency, if not both, since they've got some holes in their starting lineup right now. The Saints have already released longtime starting cornerback Jabari Greer and safety Roman Harper. And they could part ways with longtime starting safety Malcolm Jenkins, too, since he'll be an unrestricted free agent on March 11.

The good news is the Saints are set with their No. 1 cornerback in Keenan Lewis and No. 1 safety in Kenny Vaccaro. And they like the potential of young backup safety Rafael Bush and cornerback Corey White. So they don't need a total overhaul.

However, the Saints will certainly consider adding to their secondary depth in the draft, regardless of what happens in free agency. They know you can never have enough talent in the secondary in today's pass-happy NFL.

Since the Saints are picking 27th, they probably won't get a crack at the top two cornerbacks in this year's draft class -- Oklahoma State's Justin Gilbert and Michigan State's Darqueze Dennard. But they're worth highlighting since it seems like there will be a pretty interesting debate over the next couple months over which should be drafted first.

Gilbert (6-0, 202) is an athletic marvel who ran the 40-yard dash in 4.37 seconds Tuesday -- the fastest time of any defensive back. He also had one of the strongest bench press performances, among other impressive drills. He also showed big-play potential in college. However, he wasn't as consistent as a “shut-down” corner as Dennard (5-11, 199).

Dennard, meanwhile, seemed to draw just as much praise from draft analysts for posting a time of 4.51 seconds in the 40 Tuesday -- since that's considered fast enough to complement his impressive on-field work in college.

Two highly-touted corners who might be available to the Saints at No. 27 are TCU's Jason Verrett and Ohio State's Bradley Roby, who also posted blazing times in the 40 (4.38 and 4.39 seconds, respectively).

Verrett was a standout cover man in college. NFL teams will just have to get over the fact that he's only 5-9, 189 pounds. That would probably work for the Saints since they use Lewis as their physical press corner against opponents' top receivers. Roby (5-11, 194) was a little less consistent in college but still had a nice career.

The top safety prospects -- Alabama's Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (6-1, 208) and Louisiville's Calvin Pryor (5-11, 207) -- could also be off the board before the Saints pick. Both of them reportedly helped solidfy their first-round status with impressive workouts at the combine, including matching times of 4.58 seconds in the 40.

Check out this piece by ESPN.com's San Diego Chargers reporter Eric D. Williams for an even more thorough look at how the secondary prospects fared.

Defensive backs fly at combine - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	speed_up.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	29.0 KB
ID:	9043  

Views: 3013
Old 02-26-2014, 10:44 AM   #2
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 11,208
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

What are the odds we go DB at 27 instead of WR, this draft seems to be loaded with receivers and DB's

we need someone opposite keenan lewis
MarchingOn likes this.
dizzle88 is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 11:16 AM   #3
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,026
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
What are the odds we go DB at 27 instead of WR, this draft seems to be loaded with receivers and DB's

we need someone opposite keenan lewis
That depends on what the BPA is. Direction will be decided once we are on the clock and know what is available.
Danno likes this.
TheOak is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 12:06 PM   #4
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,254
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

Don't care if Verrett is 5-10, 5-9 or 5-8 that dude can play. Tough, smart player.

Saw enough of Roby living up here, he doesn't have it upstairs. I don't care about his workout numbers, he's not a smart player which makes him a not good player. He's going to be a disappointment.

I do think we should go corner in this draft. It's not a desperate need, but we're penciling in P-Rob as a #2 or #3 corner and he's coming off an ACL injury. Verrett could have the same kind of impact on our secondary that Tyrann Mathieu had for the Cardinals last year.
hagan714, TheOak, K Major and 2 others like this.
Jack Vegas is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 12:32 PM   #5
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,026
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas View Post
Don't care if Verrett is 5-10, 5-9 or 5-8 that dude can play. Tough, smart player.

Saw enough of Roby living up here, he doesn't have it upstairs. I don't care about his workout numbers, he's not a smart player which makes him a not good player. He's going to be a disappointment.

I do think we should go corner in this draft. It's not a desperate need, but we're penciling in P-Rob as a #2 or #3 corner and he's coming off an ACL injury. Verrett could have the same kind of impact on our secondary that Tyrann Mathieu had for the Cardinals last year.
Agreed, too many players come out of college having succeeded purely on natural ability. When everyone runs a 4.3 and is same ht/wt you have to be smart about it.

Defense is reactionary and instinct also plays into it a great deal. Sharper had instincts, but as we have read in the papers, not much frikken sense.
TheOak is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 12:48 PM   #6
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R)
Posts: 24,720
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
Agreed, too many players come out of college having succeeded purely on natural ability. When everyone runs a 4.3 and is same ht/wt you have to be smart about it.

Defense is reactionary and instinct also plays into it a great deal.
Tebuckey Jones was the 1st thing that came to mind when I read this.

Richard Sherman ran a 4.54. which was the same 40 as Harper, Jenkins and Vaccaro. Sherman plays much faster than all of them.
hagan714 likes this.
Danno is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 04:09 PM   #7
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

Give me Pryor Mickey Loomis, give me Pryor!!
hagan714 likes this.
halloween 65 is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 05:34 PM   #8
Bounty Money $$$
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA.
Posts: 24,052
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

I like going either safety or corner in the first round. There should be a quality pick left at #27.
Marlboro Man and MarchingOn like this.
Rugby Saint II is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 06:25 PM   #9
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 7,601
Blog Entries: 5
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

BPA - I don't see it being a corner at 27.
Danno likes this.
Euphoria is offline  
Old 02-26-2014, 06:48 PM   #10
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R)
Posts: 24,720
Re: Defensive backs fly at combine

Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
BPA - I don't see it being a corner at 27.
True, but if it is that would be great. But I'd be just fine if BPA is either OT, OC, DT, DE, LB, WR, TE or FS.

You target players, not positions
Danno is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/64508-defensive-backs-fly-combine.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Defensive backs fly at combine This thread Refback 02-26-2014 11:00 AM 5


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:47 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts