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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. But highly likely. What NFL source do you believe it was that said this to the writer and what is your basis for your opinion? Well? Occam's Razor. Seems like you have it all figured ...
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Same reason you are believing that Bush wanted to stay a back-up.
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No. Not a back-up. He's likely to play a great deal in the 4-2-5/3-3-5 and stands a far greater chance at getting a ring than he would in Atlanta. Besides, there was no guarantee he would be a starter in Atlanta regardless of what they implied. I believe absolutely he would like to be a starter, but not bad enough to be an issue whatsoever with the Saints.
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You believe all of that because of something he said.. Or just rationalization of feelings? |
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This has something to do with it.
Saints’ Bush ready to move past Falcons’ offer sheet drama
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Ok Pezo .. lol. For lack of a better phrase, you are going to have to "make up my mind". The article you just quoted as your justification was written by the same (hack/journalist of questionable integrity) Ramon Vargas that you dismissed originally when he said a source said Bush hoped the Saints didnt match...
I said he wanted to go to Atlanta to start, which you proclaimed incorrect and your article clearly states in two places "The Falcons came to Bush with an opportunity to be a starting safety." "The Falcons were searching for someone to replace Thomas DeCoud, their starting safety from 2009 until his release in March." On the 'Bush hoped the Saints wouldn't match' the reason is above, as I have stated before. And whether Vargas is a hack or not the logic makes sense... I would also say that if Bush truly wanted to remain with the Saints and the Vargas rumor was untrue, Bush or his Agent would have said then that Bush never said that, or would have come out now that he is back with the Saints and said that it wasn't true. He WANTED to go to Atlanta: What motivated him as well was the prospect of earning more money to care for an Atlanta-native wife he recently married and his 1-year-old daughter. “We all want to be able to provide for our families,” said Bush, whose NFL career began as an undrafted free agent and practice-squad member of the Falcons in 2010. “We all want an opportunity to start.” |
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No. What I had issue with is your statement that "Bush was vocal about not wanting the Saints to match the offer." I NEVER stated nor implied that Bush was not open to the idea of going to Atlanta. You were implying that Bush would be somehow upset and a distraction to the Saints. Your justification was the aforementioned declaration that Bush was vocal about not wanting to be re-signed. My whole point was that Bush NEVER stated publicly any desire for the Saints not to match.
The sole reason for the posting of the article was to show that not only is he not angry about the Saints matching the offer, but he is openly excited about the opportunity. Of course Bush wants to start. Every NFL player wants to start. But, that in no way makes him bitter, in the least and he stated that very fact. As for Bush or his agent coming out and saying that Bush was not openly opposed to the Saints matching the offer, why would they do that? It was a non-issue to almost everyone. It appeared in one article that clearly stated that it was from a source and not Bush himself. There was nothing for him to deny. The vast majority of B&G members had no issue with it, as well. As Vegas pointed out, there is no way that Loomis would have forced Bush to remain a Saint. Loomis and Payton are not that stupid. I can not see them matching the offer sheet without Bush's approval. Heck, he got the money he wanted, does not have to relocate and stands an infinitely better chance at getting a ring. What is not to like about that? |
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Oh! By the way, fun debate.
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Some enjoy a good tet-a-tet of understandings and view points. I happen to be one of them, not because I enjoy argument or drama but because that is how I learn. We may or may not differ in opinion but that is no way an argument.
Interesting timing.. I was talking to a co-worker yesterday and he was sharing thoughts on curious learning. The majority of people get defensive when asked the simple question, "why"? Ask 30 people sweeping a floor why they are doing it that way and I would almost guarantee you that greater than 75% will initially stop sweeping and think they are doing something wrong. While you may or may not notice i usually spin a few questions into my retort, I am looking for the logic or at least a better understanding of another persons view point. You and I went back and forth a few times on a few different threads. There was no denigration what so ever, a little sarcasm here and there but no personal attacks. |
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