Rafael Bush Signs Offer Sheet

TheOak · 04-08-2014, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not quite, nowhere is there any proof that Bush ever stated anything about not wanting the Saints to match the offer. The ONLY reference to that came from an NFL source. That means either someone from the league office or one of the teams themselves. I seriously doubt the league office would say something like that and the Saints surely wouldn't. Now, who else would have a vested interest in the Saints not matching the deal?

Right!

Only the Falcons!

I also have not seen the Falcons offer sheet personally so that was probably a farce also. Is there a video of Dimitroff stating he offered Bush a contract? I do not see a tweet from Bush stating that he did.

Some of these "there is no proof" arguments remind me of Seahawks fans demanding a police report.. Before the internet, nothing happened.

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 11:05 AM

That's what I would have done.

As for paying too much, his new salary is only $800K more than what we had tendered him for anyway. The Falcons are the ones who dropped the ball there; if they wanted him that bad they should've offered something that the Saints couldn't or wouldn't be willing to match. An extra 800K is a drop in the bucket when you're talking about a $140 million cap.

TheOak · 04-08-2014, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

That's what I would have done.

As for paying too much, his new salary is only $800K more than what we had tendered him for anyway. The Falcons are the ones who dropped the ball there; if they wanted him that bad they should've offered something that the Saints couldn't or wouldn't be willing to match. An extra 800K is a drop in the bucket when you're talking about a $140 million cap.

In terms of NFL Safetys he is now a top 31 in ave pay.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2014, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

In terms of NFL Safetys he is now a top 31 in ave pay.

And according to this article he is the 12th rated safety in the league.

B/R NFL 1000: Top 75 Safeties | Bleacher Report

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Jack Vegas · 04-08-2014, 01:55 PM

Here's the deal though: It doesn't really matter whether Bush said it or not. It only matters whether he is willing to play for the Saints at this point.

We are talking about Loomis and Payton here. Do we really think they signed the guy up to come back without making sure everything was on the level?

It probably went something like this:

Mickey Loomis: "Hey Rafael this is Mickey"
Rafael Bush: "yeah, what's up"
ML: "Look here's the deal, if you want to go to the Falcons that's great, we won't match. But I want the chance to change your mind"
RB: "Ok go ahead"

Here's where Rob Ryan comes in, telling him he's an important part of the defense and we're on the verge of a championship, that we need 3 good safeties in this defense, that he'll have the chance to play with freaking studs like Lewis, Vaccaro and Byrd and learn everything he can from a HOFer Champ Bailey, that he'll get the same amount of money and not have to relocate his family, etc. etc. etc. And that the Falcons defense is terrible, has been for years, and there's no reason to suspect anything is about to change anytime in the near future. And besides, didn't they cut you a few years ago anyway?

About this time Bush is beginning to see the light

RB: "Hey Mr. Loomis match the offer, I'm really amped about staying with the Saints"
ML: "Right on, we'll fax you the paperwork right now"

*curtains*

04-08-2014, 01:11 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Rafael Bush Signs Offer Sheet Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not quite, nowhere is there any proof that Bush ever stated anything about not wanting the Saints to match the offer. The ONLY reference to that came from an NFL source. That means either someone from the league office or one of the teams themselves. I seriously doubt the league office would say something like that and the Saints surely wouldn't. Now, who else would have a vested interest in the Saints not matching the deal? Right! Only the Falcons! I also have not seen the Falcons offer sheet personally so that was probably a farce also. Is there a video of Dimitroff stating he offered Bush a contract? I do not see a tweet from Bush stating that he did. Some of these "there is no proof" arguments remind me of Seahawks fans demanding a police report.. Before the internet, nothing happened.

04-08-2014, 11:05 AM	#2
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rafael Bush Signs Offer Sheet That's what I would have done. As for paying too much, his new salary is only $800K more than what we had tendered him for anyway. The Falcons are the ones who dropped the ball there; if they wanted him that bad they should've offered something that the Saints couldn't or wouldn't be willing to match. An extra 800K is a drop in the bucket when you're talking about a $140 million cap. saintfan likes this.
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04-08-2014, 11:49 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Rafael Bush Signs Offer Sheet Originally Posted by Jack Vegas That's what I would have done. As for paying too much, his new salary is only $800K more than what we had tendered him for anyway. The Falcons are the ones who dropped the ball there; if they wanted him that bad they should've offered something that the Saints couldn't or wouldn't be willing to match. An extra 800K is a drop in the bucket when you're talking about a $140 million cap. In terms of NFL Safetys he is now a top 31 in ave pay.

04-08-2014, 12:31 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Rafael Bush Signs Offer Sheet Originally Posted by TheOak In terms of NFL Safetys he is now a top 31 in ave pay. And according to this article he is the 12th rated safety in the league. B/R NFL 1000: Top 75 Safeties \| Bleacher Report Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. K Major and brees84 like this.

04-08-2014, 01:55 PM	#5
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Rafael Bush Signs Offer Sheet Here's the deal though: It doesn't really matter whether Bush said it or not. It only matters whether he is willing to play for the Saints at this point. We are talking about Loomis and Payton here. Do we really think they signed the guy up to come back without making sure everything was on the level? It probably went something like this: Mickey Loomis: "Hey Rafael this is Mickey" Rafael Bush: "yeah, what's up" ML: "Look here's the deal, if you want to go to the Falcons that's great, we won't match. But I want the chance to change your mind" RB: "Ok go ahead" Here's where Rob Ryan comes in, telling him he's an important part of the defense and we're on the verge of a championship, that we need 3 good safeties in this defense, that he'll have the chance to play with freaking studs like Lewis, Vaccaro and Byrd and learn everything he can from a HOFer Champ Bailey, that he'll get the same amount of money and not have to relocate his family, etc. etc. etc. And that the Falcons defense is terrible, has been for years, and there's no reason to suspect anything is about to change anytime in the near future. And besides, didn't they cut you a few years ago anyway? About this time Bush is beginning to see the light RB: "Hey Mr. Loomis match the offer, I'm really amped about staying with the Saints" ML: "Right on, we'll fax you the paperwork right now" curtains Halo, SmashMouth and brees84 like this.
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