second round - what ya want?

TwistedTiger · 05-09-2014, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by papz

You're assuming if we take a OL in the second he'll be another Charles Brown and will be able to land another Jahri Evans in the 4th. Why did we even take Brandin Cooks at all when we could have landed another Colston in the 7th? Why ever to take a WR in the first 6 rounds then? Why even draft at all since we've had so much success with UDFA's?

I'm sorry but your thought process is pretty damn stupid.

How many quality OL are taken every year in the later rounds of the draft? It's much easier to pick up a good OL late than it is a skill player. That's not a thought process, that's a fact of the draft. How many guards and centers are taken in the first 2 rounds on average each draft? 99% of NFL GM's can't be wrong. Loomis/Payton say BPA, so how do you pass on an impact skill player for a need at OL that you can easily fill two rounds later? Do you even have a thought process?

papz · 05-09-2014, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

How many quality OL are taken every year in the later rounds of the draft?

Plenty. Many fall through the cracks.

It's much easier to pick up a good OL late than it is a skill player.

I don't disagree.

That's not a thought process, that's a fact of the draft.

That is actually a thought process.

How many guards and centers are taken in the first 2 rounds on average each draft? 99% of NFL GM's can't be wrong.

Not many. But the ones that are, have a high impact/success rate. So if there is a guy there that we like and take, his chances of making an impact is pretty high. With that said, I've always been a proponent of taking lineman later as opposed to being early.

Loomis/Payton say BPA, so how do you pass on an impact skill player for a need at OL that you can easily fill two rounds later?

You know what BPA means? Best player available. Not best skill position player available. How do you know that player won't be an offensive lineman? Just because we've hit on plenty of OL in the mid rounds, doesn't mean it will always be the case. BPA... lineman are included in that "thought process".

Do you even have a thought process?

Sure do. My "thought process" is that you made a stupid generalization and assumption that every 2nd round OL we take will end up being Charles Brown and every later round OL we take will be an All Pro. My other "thought process" is that you have no clue what the hell BPA means.

TwistedTiger · 05-09-2014, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Plenty. Many fall through the cracks.

I don't disagree.

That is actually a thought process.

Not many. But the ones that are, have a high impact/success rate. So if there is a guy there that we like and take, his chances of making an impact is pretty high. With that said, I've always been a proponent of taking lineman later as opposed to being early.

You know what BPA means? Best player available. Not best skill position player available. How do you know that player won't be an offensive lineman? Just because we've hit on plenty of OL in the mid rounds, doesn't mean it will always be the case. BPA... lineman are included in that "thought process".

Sure do. My "thought process" is that you made a stupid generalization and assumption that every 2nd round OL we take will end up being Charles Brown and every later round OL we take will be an All Pro. My other "thought process" is that you have no clue what the hell BPA means.

High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ.

papz · 05-09-2014, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ.

There really isn't a correlation between the two. At least you understand that. You're not that stupid after all.

Mr.Riaton · 05-09-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ.

Dude,you are clearly out-matched in this argument.Just stop already.Theres no shame in knowing when to shut the f**k up.

TwistedTiger · 05-09-2014, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Dude,you are clearly out-matched in this argument.Just stop already.Theres no shame in knowing when to shut the f**k up.

No thanks, especially since I'm 100 percent correct.

05-09-2014, 02:26 PM	#1
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: second round - what ya want? Originally Posted by papz You're assuming if we take a OL in the second he'll be another Charles Brown and will be able to land another Jahri Evans in the 4th. Why did we even take Brandin Cooks at all when we could have landed another Colston in the 7th? Why ever to take a WR in the first 6 rounds then? Why even draft at all since we've had so much success with UDFA's? I'm sorry but your thought process is pretty damn stupid. How many quality OL are taken every year in the later rounds of the draft? It's much easier to pick up a good OL late than it is a skill player. That's not a thought process, that's a fact of the draft. How many guards and centers are taken in the first 2 rounds on average each draft? 99% of NFL GM's can't be wrong. Loomis/Payton say BPA, so how do you pass on an impact skill player for a need at OL that you can easily fill two rounds later? Do you even have a thought process?
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05-09-2014, 03:16 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: second round - what ya want? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger How many quality OL are taken every year in the later rounds of the draft? Plenty. Many fall through the cracks. It's much easier to pick up a good OL late than it is a skill player. I don't disagree. That's not a thought process, that's a fact of the draft. That is actually a thought process. How many guards and centers are taken in the first 2 rounds on average each draft? 99% of NFL GM's can't be wrong. Not many. But the ones that are, have a high impact/success rate. So if there is a guy there that we like and take, his chances of making an impact is pretty high. With that said, I've always been a proponent of taking lineman later as opposed to being early. Loomis/Payton say BPA, so how do you pass on an impact skill player for a need at OL that you can easily fill two rounds later? You know what BPA means? Best player available. Not best skill position player available. How do you know that player won't be an offensive lineman? Just because we've hit on plenty of OL in the mid rounds, doesn't mean it will always be the case. BPA... lineman are included in that "thought process". Do you even have a thought process? Sure do. My "thought process" is that you made a stupid generalization and assumption that every 2nd round OL we take will end up being Charles Brown and every later round OL we take will be an All Pro. My other "thought process" is that you have no clue what the hell BPA means. Danno and Mr.Riaton like this.
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05-09-2014, 03:21 PM	#3
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: second round - what ya want? Originally Posted by papz Plenty. Many fall through the cracks. I don't disagree. That is actually a thought process. Not many. But the ones that are, have a high impact/success rate. So if there is a guy there that we like and take, his chances of making an impact is pretty high. With that said, I've always been a proponent of taking lineman later as opposed to being early. You know what BPA means? Best player available. Not best skill position player available. How do you know that player won't be an offensive lineman? Just because we've hit on plenty of OL in the mid rounds, doesn't mean it will always be the case. BPA... lineman are included in that "thought process". Sure do. My "thought process" is that you made a stupid generalization and assumption that every 2nd round OL we take will end up being Charles Brown and every later round OL we take will be an All Pro. My other "thought process" is that you have no clue what the hell BPA means. High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ.
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05-09-2014, 04:32 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: second round - what ya want? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ. There really isn't a correlation between the two. At least you understand that. You're not that stupid after all. exile likes this.

05-09-2014, 04:51 PM	#5
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,290	Re: second round - what ya want? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger High post count obviously doesn't = high IQ. Dude,you are clearly out-matched in this argument.Just stop already.Theres no shame in knowing when to shut the f**k up. saintfan and Danno like this.

05-09-2014, 05:33 PM	#6
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: second round - what ya want? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Dude,you are clearly out-matched in this argument.Just stop already.Theres no shame in knowing when to shut the f**k up. No thanks, especially since I'm 100 percent correct.
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