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View Poll Results: How Do You Grade The Saints Draft?
A: We Nailed It. Championship! 7 10.94%
B: Not Too Bad At All. We Mostly Rocked It! 36 56.25%
C: Meh. I'm Not Much Impressed. 14 21.88%
D: Were The SaintSations Running The Draft This Year? 6 9.38%
F: Terrible. Time To Think New Coach/GM 1 1.56%
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Grade Our Draft!

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Old 05-10-2014, 03:54 PM   #1
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I think we did a fantastic job, got need positions and some worthy projects. Color me happy!
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:06 PM   #3
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B+
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:10 PM   #4
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I give it a C-. C+ if either of the two LB's actually stays healthy and makes the team. B- to B+ if they both manage to stay healthy and make the team, variation depending on how much they contribute.

I really like picks 1 and 2. I was skeptical about cooks at first but I like it more all the time. Honestly am starting to feel like they nailed this one just like they did last year with vaccaro. Wanted jean baptiste all along, stoked that we got him and I think by next year he will be playing a lot and playing well in RR's scheme. For those of us who wanted asomugha to come play for the saints, we got him, and he's about 10 years younger.

I want to like our third pick, the durability issue does concern me. He's "the poor man's Ryan shazier" and I think danno was on the right track when he compared shazier to casillas in another thread. Love the potential, especially if he does move inside, just wanna see him actually play.

The last 3 picks were head scratchers to me. I didn't and still don't like anything about picking a safety. This safety class was said to be weak beyond the top 3-5 and we are currently loaded at the position. Say what you want about "it only takes one injury", that's the case at any position, and we have positions that are far thinner than safety.. and don't even start with the BPA speech, because that last pick blows the entire thing outta the water. Speaking of that guy......................who?.................. As for Powell, I would love it if he pans out but looking at his injury history I would say it's probably a 50/50 shot at best that he makes it through preseason without landing on IR. He looks the part of the dangerous edge rusher, but his game needs a lot of work. I watched some of his highlights (highlights, mind you) and he looks undisciplined. I wonder how the rest of the film looks. Maybe he's another Galette who just needs a few years to settle down and really learn how to play the game, I'm hoping so. Also hoping he's not the next Greg Romeus.

Time will tell, I was mostly disappointed today, but the first 2 days were great and I think we made impact picks. Can't wait for camp time to get a look at this class and this team. Anyway, I think I've thoroughly 'splained myself.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:35 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by frydaddy View Post
I give it a C-. C+ if either of the two LB's actually stays healthy and makes the team. B- to B+ if they both manage to stay healthy and make the team, variation depending on how much they contribute.

I really like picks 1 and 2. I was skeptical about cooks at first but I like it more all the time. Honestly am starting to feel like they nailed this one just like they did last year with vaccaro. Wanted jean baptiste all along, stoked that we got him and I think by next year he will be playing a lot and playing well in RR's scheme. For those of us who wanted asomugha to come play for the saints, we got him, and he's about 10 years younger.

I want to like our third pick, the durability issue does concern me. He's "the poor man's Ryan shazier" and I think danno was on the right track when he compared shazier to casillas in another thread. Love the potential, especially if he does move inside, just wanna see him actually play.

The last 3 picks were head scratchers to me. I didn't and still don't like anything about picking a safety. This safety class was said to be weak beyond the top 3-5 and we are currently loaded at the position. Say what you want about "it only takes one injury", that's the case at any position, and we have positions that are far thinner than safety.. and don't even start with the BPA speech, because that last pick blows the entire thing outta the water. Speaking of that guy......................who?.................. As for Powell, I would love it if he pans out but looking at his injury history I would say it's probably a 50/50 shot at best that he makes it through preseason without landing on IR. He looks the part of the dangerous edge rusher, but his game needs a lot of work. I watched some of his highlights (highlights, mind you) and he looks undisciplined. I wonder how the rest of the film looks. Maybe he's another Galette who just needs a few years to settle down and really learn how to play the game, I'm hoping so. Also hoping he's not the next Greg Romeus.

Time will tell, I was mostly disappointed today, but the first 2 days were great and I think we made impact picks. Can't wait for camp time to get a look at this class and this team. Anyway, I think I've thoroughly 'splained myself.
If they nail the first two how is it only average?
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:42 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
If they nail the first two how is it only average?
The draft is seven rounds now.
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If they nail the first two how is it only average?
Because to my way of thinking 2 of the last 4 (sunseri and rooks) were flops, 1 of the remaining 2 is a high potential to flop (powell) and I'm unsure about fortt.

Now before you go scolding me for my own personal opinion, please understand that the purpose of this thread is for people to express their opinions. I've already seen what you had to say about how I'm "judging myself".. spare me. I know I could be totally wrong about these guys, I sincerely hope I am.. but this is how I feel about it right now.. Furthermore, the coaches, scouts and front office are just as human as the rest of us. There have been plenty of guys whom they were high on that never lived up to the hype, and some who flamed out entirely. I respect the fact that they spend the time and they do the research and blah blah blah. They're only slightly less likely to be wrong than me though.
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Originally Posted by frydaddy View Post
Because to my way of thinking 2 of the last 4 (sunseri and rooks) were flops, 1 of the remaining 2 is a high potential to flop (powell) and I'm unsure about fortt.

Now before you go scolding me for my own personal opinion, please understand that the purpose of this thread is for people to express their opinions. I've already seen what you had to say about how I'm "judging myself".. spare me. I know I could be totally wrong about these guys, I sincerely hope I am.. but this is how I feel about it right now.. Furthermore, the coaches, scouts and front office are just as human as the rest of us. There have been plenty of guys whom they were high on that never lived up to the hype, and some who flamed out entirely. I respect the fact that they spend the time and they do the research and blah blah blah. They're only slightly less likely to be wrong than me though.
No, that is your most critical misconception friend. They are tremendously more likely to be right than you.
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A
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:11 PM   #10
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1 - Brandin Cooks - Very explosive player and fills a need. Happy with this trade up and pick.
B+

2 - Stanley Jean-Baptiste - 6'2 cornerback with good athleticism, kinda raw. I hope he sticks to Champ Bailey like glue and learns everything he can from him, because SJB has legit upside.
A

4 - Khairi Fortt - Good speed and range, good in coverage. If not for injury and durability issues, he might have been picked a couple rounds higher than 4.
B

5 - Vinnie Sunseri - We have fantastic depth at FS, but we really don't at SS. Roman Harper was our safety when Vaccaro went down, and we let Harper go. This pick had to happen from a depth standpoint.
C

5 - Ronald Powell - Very high upside guy with injury issues. Could pay off big time in a couple years..
B

6 - Tavon Rooks - Don't know anything about him at all, but that doesn't mean it's a bad pick. I trust this staff completely, especially when it comes to drafting OL. Jermon Bushrod, Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, and Zach Strief were all drafted in late rounds. Who knows, this kid could join that list.
C

Overall, a B from me. I'm happy with it.
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