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SmashMouth 05-19-2014 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 594476)
Ahem, it was JEFF BLAKE who got the Saints to the playoffs where AB got the first playoff win. Brooks in that year was his usual, average, middling, 3-2 record. The QB that some people wanted in that era (Delhomme) went on to win an NFC Championship for his team, and go to a Pro Bowl, neither of which Brooks ever accomplished in his extremely average and mediocre NFL career as a Saint. Brooks left New Orleans and went to Oakland where he continued his trend of mediocrity. Delhomme left, led his new team to the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl, and still holds passing records for the Panthers that have not been topped.
Good point... I do recall now how Jeff Blake got the shaft by Hazbeen.

ScottF 05-19-2014 09:00 PM
Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 594468)
I'm sure I'll offend. Whatever.

He absolutely belongs in the Saints HoF. Ab-SO-Lutely beongs.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron.


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Then I'm a moron.
In the "Brooks era" we were 45-51.
He had 120 TD's vs 84 ints. He also lost 23 fumbles. That's 107 turnovers in a little over 5 seasons. His career passing rating is 78.5

Stellar numbers that clearly merit honoring.

saintfan 05-19-2014 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 594491)
Then I'm a moron.
In the "Brooks era" we were 45-51.
He had 120 TD's vs 84 ints. He also lost 23 fumbles. That's 107 turnovers in a little over 5 seasons. His career passing rating is 78.5

Stellar numbers that clearly merit honoring.
We also averaged nearly 30 points a game while he was here, had a crap o-line and to say the defense was sorry would be kind. One thing I've learned is haters gonna hate. Rock right on. He is by many measures the 2nd be QB we've ever had. I could argue the same point I've argued a thousand times, but the haters will hate in spite of reason. I will celebrate with him. You can hate on him some more. He won't lose any sleep...and neither will I.

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ScottF 05-19-2014 09:30 PM
Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 594493)
We also averaged nearly 30 points a game while he was here, had a crap o-line and to say the defense was sorry would be kind. One thing I've learned is haters gonna hate. Rock right on. He is by many measures the 2nd be QB we've ever had. I could argue the same point I've argued a thousand times, but the haters will hate in spite of reason. I will celebrate with him. You can hate on him some more. He won't lose any sleep...and neither will I.

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Our best year under Brooks we averaged 27 ppg; other years it was closer to 22 ppg. His last 3 years we went 8-8, 8-8, 3-13.
You can celebrate mediocrity if you want, but get your numbers straight before you start calling people 'moron'

Boutte 05-19-2014 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 594455)
I actually loved watching him run the 2-minute drill. He did very well, because he didn't have time to think. Give him another second or two, and that's when it all went downhill.
My thoughts exactly. When we were down in the 4th he was excellent.

Boutte 05-19-2014 10:36 PM
Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 594493)
We also averaged nearly 30 points a game while he was here, had a crap o-line and to say the defense was sorry would be kind. One thing I've learned is haters gonna hate. Rock right on. He is by many measures the 2nd be QB we've ever had. I could argue the same point I've argued a thousand times, but the haters will hate in spite of reason. I will celebrate with him. You can hate on him some more. He won't lose any sleep...and neither will I.

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First off calling some one a moron for disagreeing with you is uncalled for. And calling him our 2nd best QB makes me wonder how far back you go as a fan. Billy Kilmer, Jim Everett, Archie Manning and even Bobby Hebert were all better than him. Stats don't tell the whole story.

No need for insults, it really doesn't further your argument. As far as being a I didn't hate the guy, I just hated having him for a QB.

rezburna 05-19-2014 11:21 PM
Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 594497)
First off calling some one a moron for disagreeing with you is uncalled for. And calling him our 2nd best QB makes me wonder how far back you go as a fan. Billy Kilmer, Jim Everett, Archie Manning and even Bobby Hebert were all better than him. Stats don't tell the whole story.

No need for insults, it really doesn't further your argument. As far as being a I didn't hate the guy, I just hated having him for a QB.
Didn't Archie Manning throw more picks then TD'S in his career? Brooks was a good quarterback. He wasn't elite, but he was good...and better then Jake Delhomme. The game manager who benefitted from a stellar run game and outstanding defense. All Brooks ever had was Joe Horn and Deuce McAllister. The likes of Boo Williams and Jerome Pathon is what he was dealing with.

saintfan 05-20-2014 12:01 AM
Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 594497)
First off calling some one a moron for disagreeing with you is uncalled for. And calling him our 2nd best QB makes me wonder how far back you go as a fan. Billy Kilmer, Jim Everett, Archie Manning and even Bobby Hebert were all better than him. Stats don't tell the whole story.

No need for insults, it really doesn't further your argument. As far as being a I didn't hate the guy, I just hated having him for a QB.
That you people take things personally is not my problem. I'd take Aaron Brooks over any of those guys.

I shared my opinion. Been doing it here for a decade. I will keep on doing so. When I insult you or anyone else personally you'll know it. That you people wear your feelings on your sleeve is not my problem.

You're right about one thing tho. Stats don't tell the whole story, but with Brooks there's no way to convince the haters, stats or not. Morons can't see past their tunnel vision. They don't want to.

Now thanks pops, for the moral lesson on what's called for and what isnt. I'll take care of my own thought process big fella, if you don't mind...or even if you do.

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saintfan 05-20-2014 12:02 AM
Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 594499)
Didn't Archie Manning throw more picks then TD'S in his career? Brooks was a good quarterback. He wasn't elite, but he was good...and better then Jake Delhomme. The game manager who benefitted from a stellar run game and outstanding defense. All Brooks ever had was Joe Horn and Deuce McAllister. The likes of Boo Williams and Jerome Pathon is what he was dealing with.
Don't even waste your time. I've wasted enough here trying to talk sense into some of these people.

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TheOak 05-20-2014 04:58 AM
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BH is in it. Some times we do celebrate mediocrity.

Let's not get high on our success, there are many years I would have given away a kidney for mediocrity.


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