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Vrillon82 05-21-2014 10:31 AM

Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 594551)
I think there is some confusion here. Brooks himself stated he wanted to be known as a pocket passer and not the typical running black QB. It wasn't the Saints trying to convert him, that's what he wanted. I also think you need to look again at the defense. The defense was not awful. In 2000 Glover led the league in sacks and we had a +9 turnover ratio. The first playoff win the defense had 3 picks and 2 fumble recoveries. That playoff win was all around team win but if you feel better with AB in the Saints HOF so be it. There are others that can be labeled questionable also.

Ron Zooks was our DC in 2000, why the defense was good. once Venturi came in, it was like having Spags defense out there.

Euphoria 05-21-2014 10:49 AM

Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
Whew... I am glad to see a positive thread for AB. After he left NO we couldn't have not one thread about anything that didn't lead to AB bashing.

voodooido 05-21-2014 12:44 PM

Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
I always wanted to punch him in the face every time he smiled after a INT. With that being said he played great at times and did win our first playoff game.

Saintsfan4ever 05-21-2014 10:48 PM

Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
Yeah, I guess he deserves the honor for the good part of his era here.

For myself, and probably others too, my disgust with AB was knowing he could do better. We saw it. And then it went away. He went from really good to really bad with little in between. AB & Hazmat are the reason I gave up my season tickets after the 2004 season. I couldn't justify spending $100's every homegame for another season watching Brooks fail at being something he wasn't; a pocket QB. I could do that at home and get a lot drunker and spend a lot less.
Meanwhile, a future Pro-Bowl QB was standing on the sidelines with his helmet in his hand while Hazmat had a Wafflehouse menu stuffed down the front of his pants with a bewildered look on his face. Those were frustrating times for a Saints fan.
AB, you deserve to be in this fraternity, if for nothing else but to remind us of just how fortunate we are now.

Saint_LB 05-22-2014 04:42 PM

Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
My post from the day...this is a repeat.

We got this QB from the Packers
who smiled as he threw to linebackers.
He thought it was so funny
that they paid him so much money
even though he had so many detractors.

Considering it is the Saints...I say OK.

OldMaid 05-23-2014 02:15 AM

Re: AB in Saints HoF
 
His stats , ok.
His time with Saints, ok.
Saints Hall of Fame, ok.
Brooks. TD-123. Int. -92. 78.5 % rating.

This is a team thing for fans. I don't see all of the big disapproval of AB or seriousness of it.

What makes a good coaching staff, qb, team overall is really just a having everything all lind up up at some point.
Many good coaching staffs don't have great seasons.
Many good qb's don't. It is really a timing, just the right mix at the right time thing of everything.

I have said a few times and I will say I am sorry to everyone here, but Saints never had a qb until Brees.
Manning is the city favorite and has a special place for Saints fans. He was an ok qb. Just ok.

Stabler was ok. We had him on his down years. the 1980's were exciting and winning , well for us anyway, LOL! Yes, I know many don't like this, but Bobby Cut Off, LA Hebert was just ok. He had a super defense to carry the offense which was ok. There was a great place kicker who carried the team for points.
Hebert. TD-135. Int 124 .78% rating.

All of the Saints qb's could be in the Saints HofF except for Richard Todd. I could never understand the Richard Todd trade.

Back up qb, John running out of the pocket Fourcade was ok. His then girlfreind died of a disease and it was really sad so ,yeah, you could put him in the SaintsHofF too. He was from LA and that is what we seemed to like first for a qb. Then there was the big Delhomme push. Playing ability was second. Being from LA was first. Small mindness on us fans. These two reasons, emotional ones, well you could put Fourcade in SHF too.

Brees and the coaching staff and other players were all just the right mix. Everything just all lined up the Saints these past years .

It will not always be this way either. It may and I sure hope will come back around too after the Coach Sean years.


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