Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Hard to "steal" what's sitting out by the curb with a "take it" sign on it.
Let him go and spread the wealth.

Explain the take it sign. What has Jimmy Graham ever done to deserve leaving? Spell it out. Don't just state that crap. Give details. Give quotes. Give legit reasons.

You can't because they don't exist.

Y'all are really sad.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I really see him leaving. If they find in his favor we cant afford 12 mil a year. If they find in favor of the Saints he will be stole by another team with more cap room. Either way the Saints should be sitting pretty. Two rd1 picks or a sign and trade. If he stays we have the #1 tight end in the league. Truly a win win.

This shows us how little you know about the business called the NFL. If they "find in his favor" it has absolutely nothing to do with the long term contract. There is no chance he plays under a franchise tag, whether it be TE or WR. This whole thing is a declaration issue between the league and the NFLPA.

Regardless of the outcome he will still be signed to a deal averaging around $11M per year, with a signing bonus that carries a 2014 cap hit of around $5M, thus freeing up over $2M additional cap for this season.

You can make a deal at $11-$12M a year on paper, bet only have a small portion of it ever apply to the cap or actually ever make it to the player.

Don't believe all the bull**** you read in the press. It will make you stupid.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This shows us how little you know about the business called the NFL. If they "find in his favor" it has absolutely nothing to do with the long term contract. There is no chance he plays under a franchise tag, whether it be TE or WR. This whole thing is a declaration issue between the league and the NFLPA.

Regardless of the outcome he will still be signed to a deal averaging around $11M per year, with a signing bonus that carries a 2014 cap hit of around $5M, thus freeing up over $2M additional cap for this season.

You can make a deal at $11-$12M a year on paper, bet only have a small portion of it ever apply to the cap or actually ever make it to the player.

Don't believe all the bull**** you read in the press. It will make you stupid.

You can explain without being a ass. If you know more than post it. Calling people "stupid" or saying they "know very little" is not just demeaning but it shows your ignorance.

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

I'm still disappointed with his performance in the seahawks playoff game.

Name a single TE in the game that could have done better with the total sellout they put on shutting him down with the lack of input from the other offensive pieces. You can't.

He is universally recognized as the best TE in the league by all that know. Sorry, but it is really hard to take anyone seriously that does not understand simple facts.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE.

No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant.

You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well?

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

I'm still disappointed with his performance in the seahawks playoff game.

I agree but 90% of the team disappeared in that game till the last 5 minutes of the game. Hawks were just a better team. This year should be much different, with the running game and new weapons spread out I believe we have the upper hand. With or without JG the Saints should win.

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant.

You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well?

I tell you how a more balanced roster is better. I could block better than JG.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You can explain without being a ass. If you know more than post it. Calling people "stupid" or saying they "know very little" is not just demeaning but it shows your ignorance.

Can't help but be an ass when trying to explain the obvious to those who have an unrealistic agenda. As for the claim of ignorance, far from it. Give legitimate reasons with factual support when making your claims. I have presented logical arguments well recognized with those "in the know". Prove your lack of "ignorance" by doing the same without simply making flippant comments.

06-10-2014, 09:42 PM	#31
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Hard to "steal" what's sitting out by the curb with a "take it" sign on it. Let him go and spread the wealth. Explain the take it sign. What has Jimmy Graham ever done to deserve leaving? Spell it out. Don't just state that crap. Give details. Give quotes. Give legit reasons. You can't because they don't exist. Y'all are really sad.

06-10-2014, 09:50 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido I really see him leaving. If they find in his favor we cant afford 12 mil a year. If they find in favor of the Saints he will be stole by another team with more cap room. Either way the Saints should be sitting pretty. Two rd1 picks or a sign and trade. If he stays we have the #1 tight end in the league. Truly a win win. This shows us how little you know about the business called the NFL. If they "find in his favor" it has absolutely nothing to do with the long term contract. There is no chance he plays under a franchise tag, whether it be TE or WR. This whole thing is a declaration issue between the league and the NFLPA. Regardless of the outcome he will still be signed to a deal averaging around $11M per year, with a signing bonus that carries a 2014 cap hit of around $5M, thus freeing up over $2M additional cap for this season. You can make a deal at $11-$12M a year on paper, bet only have a small portion of it ever apply to the cap or actually ever make it to the player. Don't believe all the bull**** you read in the press. It will make you stupid. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

06-10-2014, 09:52 PM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td

06-10-2014, 09:55 PM	#34
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This shows us how little you know about the business called the NFL. If they "find in his favor" it has absolutely nothing to do with the long term contract. There is no chance he plays under a franchise tag, whether it be TE or WR. This whole thing is a declaration issue between the league and the NFLPA. Regardless of the outcome he will still be signed to a deal averaging around $11M per year, with a signing bonus that carries a 2014 cap hit of around $5M, thus freeing up over $2M additional cap for this season. You can make a deal at $11-$12M a year on paper, bet only have a small portion of it ever apply to the cap or actually ever make it to the player. Don't believe all the bull**** you read in the press. It will make you stupid. You can explain without being a ass. If you know more than post it. Calling people "stupid" or saying they "know very little" is not just demeaning but it shows your ignorance.
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06-10-2014, 09:56 PM	#35
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE.
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06-10-2014, 09:57 PM	#36
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by NOLA54 I'm still disappointed with his performance in the seahawks playoff game. Name a single TE in the game that could have done better with the total sellout they put on shutting him down with the lack of input from the other offensive pieces. You can't. He is universally recognized as the best TE in the league by all that know. Sorry, but it is really hard to take anyone seriously that does not understand simple facts.

06-10-2014, 10:00 PM	#37
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE. No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant. You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well?

06-10-2014, 10:02 PM	#38
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by NOLA54 I'm still disappointed with his performance in the seahawks playoff game. I agree but 90% of the team disappeared in that game till the last 5 minutes of the game. Hawks were just a better team. This year should be much different, with the running game and new weapons spread out I believe we have the upper hand. With or without JG the Saints should win.
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06-10-2014, 10:03 PM	#39
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant. You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well? I tell you how a more balanced roster is better. I could block better than JG.
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06-10-2014, 10:07 PM	#40
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido You can explain without being a ass. If you know more than post it. Calling people "stupid" or saying they "know very little" is not just demeaning but it shows your ignorance. Can't help but be an ass when trying to explain the obvious to those who have an unrealistic agenda. As for the claim of ignorance, far from it. Give legitimate reasons with factual support when making your claims. I have presented logical arguments well recognized with those "in the know". Prove your lack of "ignorance" by doing the same without simply making flippant comments.

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