Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 05:51 PM

In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE.

No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant.

You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well?

voodooido · 06-10-2014, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant.

You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well?

I tell you how a more balanced roster is better. I could block better than JG.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2014, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I tell you how a more balanced roster is better. I could block better than JG.

I would put quite a bit of money on the fact that you couldn't. Graham is not your prototypical blocking TE. His value as a playmaker FAR, FAR outweighs any perception that he can't block. I would much rather have a player that can catch over 100 passes, score over 15 TD's and receive for over 1000 yards than have an extra freaking offensive tackle. The Saints are a better team with Graham on the field than they are without him on the field. THAT is a fact.

halloween 65 · 06-10-2014, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I would put quite a bit of money on the fact that you couldn't. Graham is not your prototypical blocking TE. His value as a playmaker FAR, FAR outweighs any perception that he can't block. I would much rather have a player that can catch over 100 passes, score over 15 TD's and receive for over 1000 yards than have an extra freaking offensive tackle. The Saints are a better team with Graham on the field than they are without him on the field. THAT is a fact.

I disagree with the playmaker statement because a playmaker produces and overcomes. Grahams been shut out by corners before, where were his playmakingt abilities then. I also disagree that we are better with him on the field. He is no more than a product of Paytons system. If he leaves he could easily be replaced by a traditional TE( one that does what a TE does) and a little different playcalling we wouldn't miss a beat and would be better as a O.

06-10-2014, 05:51 PM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,844	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td
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06-10-2014, 08:52 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td

06-10-2014, 08:56 PM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,844	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE.
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06-10-2014, 09:00 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido That's the best you can come up with? In 2009 our TE was Shockey. HIs stats were average at best. I think the 2we have on the roster will do fine. His stats: 48 catches for 569 yards, 3 td. I posted facts. It proves we can win with out a dominate TE. No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant. You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well?

06-10-2014, 09:03 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,844	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, you need to tell me how arguably the best TE in the league being on the roster isn't not better than inferior TE's in his place. If Jimmy Graham had been on the 2009 squad the Saints would have been just that more dominant. You tell us how a weaker roster is better. Well? I tell you how a more balanced roster is better. I could block better than JG.
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06-10-2014, 09:13 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by voodooido I tell you how a more balanced roster is better. I could block better than JG. I would put quite a bit of money on the fact that you couldn't. Graham is not your prototypical blocking TE. His value as a playmaker FAR, FAR outweighs any perception that he can't block. I would much rather have a player that can catch over 100 passes, score over 15 TD's and receive for over 1000 yards than have an extra freaking offensive tackle. The Saints are a better team with Graham on the field than they are without him on the field. THAT is a fact. SaintFanInATLHELL and AliJee like this.

06-10-2014, 09:59 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Five Reasons Someone Will Steal Jimmy Graham from the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I would put quite a bit of money on the fact that you couldn't. Graham is not your prototypical blocking TE. His value as a playmaker FAR, FAR outweighs any perception that he can't block. I would much rather have a player that can catch over 100 passes, score over 15 TD's and receive for over 1000 yards than have an extra freaking offensive tackle. The Saints are a better team with Graham on the field than they are without him on the field. THAT is a fact. I disagree with the playmaker statement because a playmaker produces and overcomes. Grahams been shut out by corners before, where were his playmakingt abilities then. I also disagree that we are better with him on the field. He is no more than a product of Paytons system. If he leaves he could easily be replaced by a traditional TE( one that does what a TE does) and a little different playcalling we wouldn't miss a beat and would be better as a O.

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