2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart

jeanpierre · 07-17-2014, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It is going to happen. Brees was quoted recently that he felt he could play at the same level into his 40's. With the way he works and the recent advances I have no doubt. Brees at his age is in FAR better physical condition than Manning at the same age.

Vilma still thought he could play as well...

Brees' experience and knowledge is as good as anyone on the league...

But we're seeing more and more underthrown long balls to the receivers the past three seasons...

And those nifty feet in the pocket are getting a bit slower - though Grubbs has been an oversign, overpay and been no where near as effective as Nicks was - and there've been a few missed opportunities where Brees could've pulled the ball down and ran for the first that also lean towards this trend...

Not sure yet if Payton's move of Griffin to the active squad as a counter to the Rams' practice squad waiver claim last season was a counter to inflating his value or if he feels this is his "next" guy - if Griffin beats out the other McCown, it could be telling...

But Brees turns 36 this season - Saints should still be playing mid-January according to Archie's roster assessment - and I don't see extending that contract when the current one is not even finished...

And so there's the reality of age that is there whether we want to face it or neaux...

QBREES9 · 07-18-2014, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

Erik Lorig, Ben Grubbs, Terron Armstead, and Jahari Evans will all boost their grades this year making the roster look even greater

It begins and ends with these guys.

jeanpierre · 07-18-2014, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

It begins and ends with these guys.

Q, you hit it on the head - always the most overlooked but most important part of the team is the offensive line/blocking facet of the game...

Seer1 · 07-18-2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Q, you hit it on the head - always the most overlooked but most important part of the team is the offensive line/blocking facet of the game...

Man JP, I don't think any Saints fan's overlooking our OL right now.

jeanpierre · 07-18-2014, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Man JP, I don't think any Saints fan's overlooking our OL right now.

Part of that also is that the other team components are so much better since the '09 season; the defensive line, defensive secondary, wide receiver/tight end corps look to be something special...

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2014, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Vilma still thought he could play as well...

Brees' experience and knowledge is as good as anyone on the league...

But we're seeing more and more underthrown long balls to the receivers the past three seasons...

And those nifty feet in the pocket are getting a bit slower - though Grubbs has been an oversign, overpay and been no where near as effective as Nicks was - and there've been a few missed opportunities where Brees could've pulled the ball down and ran for the first that also lean towards this trend...

Not sure yet if Payton's move of Griffin to the active squad as a counter to the Rams' practice squad waiver claim last season was a counter to inflating his value or if he feels this is his "next" guy - if Griffin beats out the other McCown, it could be telling...

But Brees turns 36 this season - Saints should still be playing mid-January according to Archie's roster assessment - and I don't see extending that contract when the current one is not even finished...

And so there's the reality of age that is there whether we want to face it or neaux...

Brees' cap hits the next two seasons ($26.4M & $27.4M) only give the Saints two choices ... They either cut him or extend him with a restructure, much like what the Patriots did with Brady. There is no way the Saints are going to cut Brees prior to the 2015 season. Brees is still one of the very few elite QB's in the game and there is no reason given how he takes care of himself that he couldn't remain one of the best QB's in the game and far better than any other option.

The Dude · 07-18-2014, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What is the scouting report on Vic Butler? I think he should be colored gray ... at least for now.

Almost forgot about him. I expect big things from him this year.

halloween 65 · 07-19-2014, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It will continue to be good for several years because Brees will be around and at that time will be easing into that portion of his career where he has already made his money.

Father time catches everyone. I don't see several more years with him taking shots like he has, conditioning or not. If it would ever come to a point like (Kenny Stabler) trying to milk out his career then I would be all for change, as long as Brees continues to play at a high level, then everything is good, or if he were in a position like John Elway winning 2 and riding off in the sunset, I would much rather Brees go out on top than fade away. 40 or so I would have to think no.

jeanpierre · 07-19-2014, 09:23 PM

Heat is on the following players:

Victor Butler
Mark Ingram, Jr
Curtis Lofton
Robert Meachem
Parys Haralson
Luke McCown
David Hawthorne
Nick Toon
Traveris Cadet

halloween 65 · 07-19-2014, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Heat is on the following players:

Victor Butler
Mark Ingram, Jr
Curtis Lofton
Robert Meachem
Parys Haralson
Luke McCown
David Hawthorne
Nick Toon
Traveris Cadet

Yes but the heat should be on every player that suits up, if any starter would get beat out and so-be-it ,thats the only way to improve at each position. I never have liked the thought of being penciled in that only makes things weak.

07-17-2014, 04:24 AM	#21
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It is going to happen. Brees was quoted recently that he felt he could play at the same level into his 40's. With the way he works and the recent advances I have no doubt. Brees at his age is in FAR better physical condition than Manning at the same age. Vilma still thought he could play as well... Brees' experience and knowledge is as good as anyone on the league... But we're seeing more and more underthrown long balls to the receivers the past three seasons... And those nifty feet in the pocket are getting a bit slower - though Grubbs has been an oversign, overpay and been no where near as effective as Nicks was - and there've been a few missed opportunities where Brees could've pulled the ball down and ran for the first that also lean towards this trend... Not sure yet if Payton's move of Griffin to the active squad as a counter to the Rams' practice squad waiver claim last season was a counter to inflating his value or if he feels this is his "next" guy - if Griffin beats out the other McCown, it could be telling... But Brees turns 36 this season - Saints should still be playing mid-January according to Archie's roster assessment - and I don't see extending that contract when the current one is not even finished... And so there's the reality of age that is there whether we want to face it or neaux... ChrisXVI and K Major like this.
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07-18-2014, 01:45 AM	#22
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by Schmohams Erik Lorig, Ben Grubbs, Terron Armstead, and Jahari Evans will all boost their grades this year making the roster look even greater It begins and ends with these guys. jeanpierre likes this.

07-18-2014, 09:03 AM	#23
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by QBREES9 It begins and ends with these guys. Q, you hit it on the head - always the most overlooked but most important part of the team is the offensive line/blocking facet of the game...

07-18-2014, 10:28 AM	#24
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by jeanpierre Q, you hit it on the head - always the most overlooked but most important part of the team is the offensive line/blocking facet of the game... Man JP, I don't think any Saints fan's overlooking our OL right now.

07-18-2014, 04:10 PM	#25
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by Seer1 Man JP, I don't think any Saints fan's overlooking our OL right now. Part of that also is that the other team components are so much better since the '09 season; the defensive line, defensive secondary, wide receiver/tight end corps look to be something special...

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by jeanpierre Vilma still thought he could play as well... Brees' experience and knowledge is as good as anyone on the league... But we're seeing more and more underthrown long balls to the receivers the past three seasons... And those nifty feet in the pocket are getting a bit slower - though Grubbs has been an oversign, overpay and been no where near as effective as Nicks was - and there've been a few missed opportunities where Brees could've pulled the ball down and ran for the first that also lean towards this trend... Not sure yet if Payton's move of Griffin to the active squad as a counter to the Rams' practice squad waiver claim last season was a counter to inflating his value or if he feels this is his "next" guy - if Griffin beats out the other McCown, it could be telling... But Brees turns 36 this season - Saints should still be playing mid-January according to Archie's roster assessment - and I don't see extending that contract when the current one is not even finished... And so there's the reality of age that is there whether we want to face it or neaux... Brees' cap hits the next two seasons ($26.4M & $27.4M) only give the Saints two choices ... They either cut him or extend him with a restructure, much like what the Patriots did with Brady. There is no way the Saints are going to cut Brees prior to the 2015 season. Brees is still one of the very few elite QB's in the game and there is no reason given how he takes care of himself that he couldn't remain one of the best QB's in the game and far better than any other option.

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07-19-2014, 12:25 AM	#28
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It will continue to be good for several years because Brees will be around and at that time will be easing into that portion of his career where he has already made his money. Father time catches everyone. I don't see several more years with him taking shots like he has, conditioning or not. If it would ever come to a point like (Kenny Stabler) trying to milk out his career then I would be all for change, as long as Brees continues to play at a high level, then everything is good, or if he were in a position like John Elway winning 2 and riding off in the sunset, I would much rather Brees go out on top than fade away. 40 or so I would have to think no.

07-19-2014, 09:23 PM	#29
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Heat is on the following players: Victor Butler Mark Ingram, Jr Curtis Lofton Robert Meachem Parys Haralson Luke McCown David Hawthorne Nick Toon Traveris Cadet

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 New Orleans Saints: Depth Chart Originally Posted by jeanpierre Heat is on the following players: Victor Butler Mark Ingram, Jr Curtis Lofton Robert Meachem Parys Haralson Luke McCown David Hawthorne Nick Toon Traveris Cadet Yes but the heat should be on every player that suits up, if any starter would get beat out and so-be-it ,thats the only way to improve at each position. I never have liked the thought of being penciled in that only makes things weak.

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