Payton "very upset"

poydras · 08-16-2014, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Weren't some of us "hair on fire" last year when we had a bad preseason game? True nothing like 22 penalties but I am confident SP will clear this up,over the next few weeks.
Now time for Jimmy to start acting lie an adult and stop dunking the ball. Why not a free throw over the goal post. Or an awesome skyhook?

Any celebration involving the ball is going to be a penalty this year. Graham needs to take notes on what Colston does after a touchdown. Act like you've done it before.

Barry from MS · 08-16-2014, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Special teams still needs a lot of work.

It's been an ongoing project since Greg McMahon took over as Special Teams Coordinator. In fairness, he still needs time to implement his schemes and put the right players in the right position to succeed. Apparently, it takes 5+ years to accomplish this as he only took over to start the 2008 season.

Last night TEN averaged 27.5 yards per kick-off return. STL had 26.8 last week. Let's not forget the fake punt pulled by STL, either.

And I honestly can't remember the last time the Saints stopped a fake punt since 2008, or can't remember a blocked punt or kick after that epic 2006 MNF game.

This suck clown of a coordinator is a sore subject with me, obviously. If we didn't have Morstead, we'd be right properly ----ed.

Cruize · 08-17-2014, 12:27 AM

The discipline was bad. The effort was spotty at best. Graham shouldn't have dunked it twice. The OL play was not great. Lewis being injured regardless of how small is not good. The LB's look very average.

Halo · 08-17-2014, 12:51 AM

Well..... if discipline is our problem and our coach is making a big deal about it, then we're on the right path. This is preseason. If discipline and self control are your biggest concerns in preseason, then you're doing pretty good.

Lord knows this team does NOT want for talent at most positions. Now our defense is starting to stack up!

I do agree our weakest link is our Special Teams. Barry is right, our kick return coverage has been crap since our SuperBowl season, at least. I agree we probably need a Special Teams coaching change at the earliest time possible.

AlaskaSaints · 08-17-2014, 01:24 AM

Jimmy is too big for his britches. Someone is gonna put him on his ass pretty soon. He's drawing too much attention, where once he was quietly confident and talented, he's about to become a prima-donna.

poydras · 08-17-2014, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Jimmy is too big for his britches. Someone is gonna put him on his ass pretty soon. He's drawing too much attention, where once he was quietly confident and talented, he's about to become a prima-donna.

I have to wonder why that describes most players out of the Miami Hurricanes system. Do they go to a class that teaches them how to be a self-centered jerk?

iceshack149 · 08-17-2014, 09:45 AM

Graham is just one of those high intensity players. And although he achieved nothing against Seattle last year, he was mixing it up with their players before the game.

He a pilot. He feeds off adrenaline.

He wont do it during the regular season. I'm fairly certain of that. Preseason? He'll take his lumps if he can get the crowd riled up.

He's the best TE in the game. I'll take his immaturity with his excellent abilities.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-17-2014, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

Any celebration involving the ball is going to be a penalty this year. Graham needs to take notes on what Colston does after a touchdown. Act like you've done it before.

If you haven't noticed, he has done 41 times before Friday night, and acted the exact same way he did the previous 41 times. Did you cheer the other 41 times?

Seriously y'all bunch of Goodells, stop it. It is preseason. Win or lose in preseason, it don't count on the regular season standings or the playoffs. Jimmy put up a show for the crowd. End of story.

hagan714 · 08-17-2014, 10:40 AM

It was a real stinker all around. few bright spots for a couple guys fighting to make the team.

next game should be all hands on deck then i will judge the state of affairs.

SmashMouth · 08-17-2014, 01:02 PM

It's time for Grambeaux to move on and come up with another TD celebration. His first down one will do for now.

08-16-2014, 11:23 PM	#21
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Payton "very upset" Originally Posted by homerj07 Weren't some of us "hair on fire" last year when we had a bad preseason game? True nothing like 22 penalties but I am confident SP will clear this up,over the next few weeks. Now time for Jimmy to start acting lie an adult and stop dunking the ball. Why not a free throw over the goal post. Or an awesome skyhook? Any celebration involving the ball is going to be a penalty this year. Graham needs to take notes on what Colston does after a touchdown. Act like you've done it before. hagan714 likes this.

08-16-2014, 11:53 PM	#22
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Payton "very upset" Originally Posted by K Major Special teams still needs a lot of work. It's been an ongoing project since Greg McMahon took over as Special Teams Coordinator. In fairness, he still needs time to implement his schemes and put the right players in the right position to succeed. Apparently, it takes 5+ years to accomplish this as he only took over to start the 2008 season. Last night TEN averaged 27.5 yards per kick-off return. STL had 26.8 last week. Let's not forget the fake punt pulled by STL, either. And I honestly can't remember the last time the Saints stopped a fake punt since 2008, or can't remember a blocked punt or kick after that epic 2006 MNF game. This suck clown of a coordinator is a sore subject with me, obviously. If we didn't have Morstead, we'd be right properly ----ed.
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08-17-2014, 12:27 AM	#23
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Payton "very upset" The discipline was bad. The effort was spotty at best. Graham shouldn't have dunked it twice. The OL play was not great. Lewis being injured regardless of how small is not good. The LB's look very average. hagan714 likes this.
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08-17-2014, 12:51 AM	#24
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,718 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Payton "very upset" Well..... if discipline is our problem and our coach is making a big deal about it, then we're on the right path. This is preseason. If discipline and self control are your biggest concerns in preseason, then you're doing pretty good. Lord knows this team does NOT want for talent at most positions. Now our defense is starting to stack up! I do agree our weakest link is our Special Teams. Barry is right, our kick return coverage has been crap since our SuperBowl season, at least. I agree we probably need a Special Teams coaching change at the earliest time possible. hagan714 and AlaskaSaints like this.
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08-17-2014, 08:47 AM	#26
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Payton "very upset" Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Jimmy is too big for his britches. Someone is gonna put him on his ass pretty soon. He's drawing too much attention, where once he was quietly confident and talented, he's about to become a prima-donna. I have to wonder why that describes most players out of the Miami Hurricanes system. Do they go to a class that teaches them how to be a self-centered jerk? AlaskaSaints likes this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Payton "very upset" Graham is just one of those high intensity players. And although he achieved nothing against Seattle last year, he was mixing it up with their players before the game. He a pilot. He feeds off adrenaline. He wont do it during the regular season. I'm fairly certain of that. Preseason? He'll take his lumps if he can get the crowd riled up. He's the best TE in the game. I'll take his immaturity with his excellent abilities.

08-17-2014, 09:58 AM	#28
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Payton "very upset" Originally Posted by poydras Any celebration involving the ball is going to be a penalty this year. Graham needs to take notes on what Colston does after a touchdown. Act like you've done it before. If you haven't noticed, he has done 41 times before Friday night, and acted the exact same way he did the previous 41 times. Did you cheer the other 41 times? Seriously y'all bunch of Goodells, stop it. It is preseason. Win or lose in preseason, it don't count on the regular season standings or the playoffs. Jimmy put up a show for the crowd. End of story. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

08-17-2014, 10:40 AM	#29
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton "very upset" It was a real stinker all around. few bright spots for a couple guys fighting to make the team. next game should be all hands on deck then i will judge the state of affairs.

08-17-2014, 01:02 PM	#30
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Payton "very upset" It's time for Grambeaux to move on and come up with another TD celebration. His first down one will do for now.

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