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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz As long as he doesn't get us penalized during the regular season, I don't really care. It's preseason football. Unless there are injuries, I make little to nothing of it. Preseason is hardly a precursor or ...

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Old 08-16-2014, 03:28 PM   #1
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As long as he doesn't get us penalized during the regular season, I don't really care.

It's preseason football. Unless there are injuries, I make little to nothing of it. Preseason is hardly a precursor or forecast to what the regular season will bring.
This is the nail on the head. Let the vets get a few good plays and a couple good hits, evaluate your new guys and pray for no injuries. How many penalties will be eliminated simply from having Drew Brees back under center? I think its possible that behind closed doors Payton never even mentioned the penalties.
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Old 08-17-2014, 08:10 PM   #2
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As long as he doesn't get us penalized during the regular season, I don't really care.

It's preseason football. Unless there are injuries, I make little to nothing of it. Preseason is hardly a precursor or forecast to what the regular season will bring.
This is preseason football. It has no bearing at all on what the team will look like once regular season starts. It's sole purpose is to evaluate individual players and to make more money for the league.

As far as Jimmy G, if we're up by a couple of scores towards the end of the game at the Foulcants, then I hope he slam dunks it just to flip the bird to Goodell.

WHO DAT!!!
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The team looked sloppy in general

Way too many penalties obviously
Cooks dropping that long TD pass which suprised me a lot
Our secondary getting gashed for some big gains
Running game not particularly effective

A lot of stuff we need to work on
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Special teams still needs a lot of work.
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Special teams always needs a lot of work.
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Special teams still needs a lot of work.
It's been an ongoing project since Greg McMahon took over as Special Teams Coordinator. In fairness, he still needs time to implement his schemes and put the right players in the right position to succeed. Apparently, it takes 5+ years to accomplish this as he only took over to start the 2008 season.

Last night TEN averaged 27.5 yards per kick-off return. STL had 26.8 last week. Let's not forget the fake punt pulled by STL, either.

And I honestly can't remember the last time the Saints stopped a fake punt since 2008, or can't remember a blocked punt or kick after that epic 2006 MNF game.

This suck clown of a coordinator is a sore subject with me, obviously. If we didn't have Morstead, we'd be right properly ----ed.

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Man, those penalties have everyone in a foul mood...

...it's good that we've reached that kind of standard for our team...
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:29 PM   #8
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I see the point those who are really concerned.

I , like others, see preseason as it is which is a warm up. Chance to test out plays and routes and players. Coaches test themselves as well during preseason.
It is the only time to really just have a game night out and watch for fun.

If they or any team wins preseson, whoop-pee!!
It is not a precursor to what is to come one way or another.
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The discipline was bad. The effort was spotty at best. Graham shouldn't have dunked it twice. The OL play was not great. Lewis being injured regardless of how small is not good. The LB's look very average.
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Well..... if discipline is our problem and our coach is making a big deal about it, then we're on the right path. This is preseason. If discipline and self control are your biggest concerns in preseason, then you're doing pretty good.

Lord knows this team does NOT want for talent at most positions. Now our defense is starting to stack up!

I do agree our weakest link is our Special Teams. Barry is right, our kick return coverage has been crap since our SuperBowl season, at least. I agree we probably need a Special Teams coaching change at the earliest time possible.
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