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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Most DB's are going to struggle against that Atlanta group, especially when they play like that....

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Old 09-09-2014, 10:42 AM   #1
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Re: Do we bring Champ back??

Most DB's are going to struggle against that Atlanta group, especially when they play like that.
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Re: Do we bring Champ back??

I didn't get to see the game, but from what I've read here, I don't think we necessarily need to change personnel so much as game plan.

Outside of Richard Sherman and a few others, I don't see anyone covering Julio and Roddy, straight up when they get clean off the line. Why were we not jamming them at the line and pressing them the entire way through their routes?

Why are we not learning anything from Seattle and playing soft as heck? I understand that our coaches are brilliant and want to outsmart everyone with schemes. I like to do the same thing when I box. But sometimes you just need to lace up the gloves nice and tight, wade in, and punch someone in the mouth.

I don't get it. Can someone help me out?
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:29 PM   #3
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What was so awful about our coverage was how often we rushed only 4 guys and Ryan delivered very quickly to wide open WRs. It's true that those guys are good but when we've got 7 guys back in coverage they've gotta hold up longer than that.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:26 PM   #4
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there is no one to bring in. we are stuck with what we have, and they will not all the sudden get any better. Passing teams will kill us, look at who we have to face and tell me we can stop them?
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I bet Champ had to chuckle as he watched the defense he didn't make.
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:21 AM   #6
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I bet Champ had to chuckle as he watched the defense he didn't make.
Or start drafting his retirement papers since he wasn't good enough to make this roster at league minimum.
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:33 AM   #7
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Nah, we just put Patrick Robinson up for trade or just flat out cut him right now. That should send a nice message that we won't tolerate that kind of play, and you'd better step up.
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:07 AM   #8
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Nah, we just put Patrick Robinson up for trade or just flat out cut him right now. That should send a nice message that we won't tolerate that kind of play, and you'd better step up.
And cut Lewis, Byrd and Vaccaro too? They played worse.
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And cut Lewis, Byrd and Vaccaro too? They played worse.
Only difference is those other guys have shown you they can play great more often than not. Can you honestly say that about prob? Not saying he should instantly be cut but I don't think he should be listed at the number 2 corner either. I feel like people are supporting him by default because they feel we can't find anyone better .
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:54 PM   #10
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Only difference is those other guys have shown you they can play great more often than not. Can you honestly say that about prob? Not saying he should instantly be cut but I don't think he should be listed at the number 2 corner either. I feel like people are supporting him by default because they feel we can't find anyone better .
My point was to ridicule the over-reaction aimed at a guy who's being scapegoated.

Patrick Robinson has indeed looked good at times. It was one game and he graded out as our 2nd best DB (or 5th worst if you prefer)

If he continues to suck and the other DB's start playing well, then we can take the "lets cut him now" nonsense seriously.
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