Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett

09-10-2014, 09:37 AM

Great article Tripplett.

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it.

You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone.

Reminder: We suck at zone.

It was more tongue in cheek. When Atlanta has the ball on their 30 and Byrd is in our endzone like he is waiting for a kickoff..... Not gonna get burned is obvious.

Then again, maybe Tripplett was laughing when he wrote it.

Jack Vegas · 09-10-2014, 10:57 AM

We played zone at times last year and it was successful. We have 2 new starters in the secondary now though. Players don't know each other as well. You have to have much better communication and teamwork to play zone.

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment.

Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason.

The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason.

Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

ikecomp · 09-10-2014, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason.

The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason.

Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

Yeah, that boggled my mind on so many levels. It would be 3rd and 6 and guys were playing so far off that I couldn't see them on my screen even though we have been burned time and time again by underneath routes and pick plays.

Danno · 09-10-2014, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

We played zone at times last year and it was successful. We have 2 new starters in the secondary now though. Players don't know each other as well. You have to have much better communication and teamwork to play zone.

Agreed Jack, and with Byrd and Robinson missing so much time in camp there had to be some rust to shake off and some gellin' to do with his team mates.

We're all just kinda shocked it was this much rust and so little gellin'

NonieT · 09-10-2014, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

We played zone at times last year and it was successful. We have 2 new starters in the secondary now though. Players don't know each other as well. You have to have much better communication and teamwork to play zone.

Yeah, but we never had WRs being covered by LBs. The LBs they had in coverage were bad. Why didn't they used Humber or Powell? And the zone was mixed in with man to man.

Utah_Saint · 09-10-2014, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason.

The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason.

Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

I don't think what we saw on Sunday is going to be a regular part of the Saints defensive scheme. I think it was more of specific plan for the falcons and their deep roster of wide receivers. The plan didn't work.

I think the fact the Saints drafted a press corner and brought in Champ, another press corner indicates they plan on much more man coverage than what we saw on Sunday.

Jamessr · 09-10-2014, 01:29 PM

Pass rush.
Where do we buy some?

Rugby Saint II · 09-10-2014, 01:47 PM

The timing was off on defense last week. Hopefully we've had time to get the kinks worked out.

09-10-2014, 09:37 AM	#11
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09-10-2014, 10:51 AM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Danno Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it. You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone. Reminder: We suck at zone. It was more tongue in cheek. When Atlanta has the ball on their 30 and Byrd is in our endzone like he is waiting for a kickoff..... Not gonna get burned is obvious. Then again, maybe Tripplett was laughing when he wrote it.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett We played zone at times last year and it was successful. We have 2 new starters in the secondary now though. Players don't know each other as well. You have to have much better communication and teamwork to play zone. Danno likes this.
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09-10-2014, 11:01 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment. Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason. The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason. Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by TheOak Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason. The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason. Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season. Yeah, that boggled my mind on so many levels. It would be 3rd and 6 and guys were playing so far off that I couldn't see them on my screen even though we have been burned time and time again by underneath routes and pick plays.
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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Jack Vegas We played zone at times last year and it was successful. We have 2 new starters in the secondary now though. Players don't know each other as well. You have to have much better communication and teamwork to play zone. Yeah, but we never had WRs being covered by LBs. The LBs they had in coverage were bad. Why didn't they used Humber or Powell? And the zone was mixed in with man to man.
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09-10-2014, 01:17 PM	#18
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by TheOak Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason. The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason. Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season. I don't think what we saw on Sunday is going to be a regular part of the Saints defensive scheme. I think it was more of specific plan for the falcons and their deep roster of wide receivers. The plan didn't work. I think the fact the Saints drafted a press corner and brought in Champ, another press corner indicates they plan on much more man coverage than what we saw on Sunday.

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