Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett

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My two biggest takeaways after reviewing the tape of the New Orleans Saints' defense: The tackling was just as bad as advertised, but the cornerback play wasn't as glaring a concern as one might expect.

The Saints allowed a franchise-record 445 passing yards in a 37-34 overtime loss to the Atlanta Falcons Sunday. But they rarely got burned over the top by big-play threats Julio Jones and Roddy White. The only two times the Saints got beat deep were a 35-yard pass to Devin Hester and a 27-yarder to Jones, both against cornerback Patrick Robinson.

The bad news was that the Saints were repeatedly burned by the underneath stuff, and they didn't get enough pressure on quarterback Matt Ryan. Most of the Falcons' yardage came via those missed tackles, too many big cushions in zone coverage, pick plays and screen plays.

Here are some more observations:

Missed tackles: Yikes. Pro Football Focus credited the Saints with 16 missed tackles -- and many of them were costly.

Film study: Reviewing New Orleans Saints defense - ESPN

Danno · 09-10-2014, 07:16 AM

Tripp is right

dizzle88 · 09-10-2014, 07:24 AM

Patrick Robinson guesses too much in man coverage, when he guessed wrong he gets completely turned around and about 3 steps away from the receiver leaving him wide open

I really want the guy to do well, but if his technique in coverage doesn't improve this season I think he is gone

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 07:50 AM

How could one possible get burned over the top playing 6 miles off the receiver?

Danno · 09-10-2014, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

How could one possible get burned over the top playing 6 miles off the receiver?

Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it.

You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone.

Reminder: We suck at zone.

NonieT · 09-10-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Reminder: We suck at zone.

And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me.

Utah_Saint · 09-10-2014, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me.

Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone.

Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep.

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me.

Well, that is when that whole insignificant tackling thingy comes into play.

195 yards after the catch.

NonieT · 09-10-2014, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone.

Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep.

When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!!

As someone already said: "We suck at zone."

Utah_Saint · 09-10-2014, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!!

As someone already said: "We suck at zone."

Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment.

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Threaded by hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68 Rating: (0 votes - average) My two biggest takeaways after reviewing the tape of the New Orleans Saints' defense: The tackling was just as bad as advertised, but the cornerback play wasn't as glaring a concern as one might expect. The Saints allowed a franchise-record 445 passing yards in a 37-34 overtime loss to the Atlanta Falcons Sunday. But they rarely got burned over the top by big-play threats Julio Jones and Roddy White. The only two times the Saints got beat deep were a 35-yard pass to Devin Hester and a 27-yarder to Jones, both against cornerback Patrick Robinson. The bad news was that the Saints were repeatedly burned by the underneath stuff, and they didn't get enough pressure on quarterback Matt Ryan. Most of the Falcons' yardage came via those missed tackles, too many big cushions in zone coverage, pick plays and screen plays. Here are some more observations: Missed tackles: Yikes. Pro Football Focus credited the Saints with 16 missed tackles -- and many of them were costly. Film study: Reviewing New Orleans Saints defense - ESPN Attached Thumbnails Beastmode likes this. Last edited by Halo; 09-10-2014 at 05:12 PM..
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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Tripp is right

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Patrick Robinson guesses too much in man coverage, when he guessed wrong he gets completely turned around and about 3 steps away from the receiver leaving him wide open I really want the guy to do well, but if his technique in coverage doesn't improve this season I think he is gone

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett How could one possible get burned over the top playing 6 miles off the receiver? jeanpierre, saintsfan403 and MarchingOn like this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by TheOak How could one possible get burned over the top playing 6 miles off the receiver? Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it. You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone. Reminder: We suck at zone.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by NonieT And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me. Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone. Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by NonieT And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me. Well, that is when that whole insignificant tackling thingy comes into play. 195 yards after the catch. MarchingOn likes this.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone. Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep. When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!! As someone already said: "We suck at zone."
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by NonieT When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!! As someone already said: "We suck at zone." Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment.

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