Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett

Danno · 09-10-2014, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

How could one possible get burned over the top playing 6 miles off the receiver?

Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it.

You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone.

Reminder: We suck at zone.

NonieT · 09-10-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Reminder: We suck at zone.

And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me.

Utah_Saint · 09-10-2014, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me.

Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone.

Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep.

NonieT · 09-10-2014, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone.

Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep.

When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!!

As someone already said: "We suck at zone."

Utah_Saint · 09-10-2014, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!!

As someone already said: "We suck at zone."

Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment.

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment.

Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason.

The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason.

Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

ikecomp · 09-10-2014, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason.

The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason.

Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

Yeah, that boggled my mind on so many levels. It would be 3rd and 6 and guys were playing so far off that I couldn't see them on my screen even though we have been burned time and time again by underneath routes and pick plays.

Utah_Saint · 09-10-2014, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason.

The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason.

Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

I don't think what we saw on Sunday is going to be a regular part of the Saints defensive scheme. I think it was more of specific plan for the falcons and their deep roster of wide receivers. The plan didn't work.

I think the fact the Saints drafted a press corner and brought in Champ, another press corner indicates they plan on much more man coverage than what we saw on Sunday.

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me.

Well, that is when that whole insignificant tackling thingy comes into play.

195 yards after the catch.

TheOak · 09-10-2014, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it.

You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone.

Reminder: We suck at zone.

It was more tongue in cheek. When Atlanta has the ball on their 30 and Byrd is in our endzone like he is waiting for a kickoff..... Not gonna get burned is obvious.

Then again, maybe Tripplett was laughing when he wrote it.

09-10-2014, 08:06 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by TheOak How could one possible get burned over the top playing 6 miles off the receiver? Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it. You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone. Reminder: We suck at zone.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Danno Reminder: We suck at zone. And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me. jeanpierre likes this.
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by NonieT And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me. Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone. Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Probably because playing Julio Jones, Roddy White, Harry Douglas and Devin Hester man to man was asking too much so they played a lot of zone. Luckily, there aren't many receiving corps in the NFL that are that deep. When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!! As someone already said: "We suck at zone."
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by NonieT When we we play them again, what's gonna happen? NO MORE ZONE!!! As someone already said: "We suck at zone." Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yeah, I hope they chalk that up to a failed experiment. Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason. The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason. Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by TheOak Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason. The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason. Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season. Yeah, that boggled my mind on so many levels. It would be 3rd and 6 and guys were playing so far off that I couldn't see them on my screen even though we have been burned time and time again by underneath routes and pick plays.
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09-10-2014, 01:17 PM	#8
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by TheOak Don't get your hopes up. The Spagnuolo experiment wasn't cancelled, the zone run blocking scheme last season wasn't cancelled on the first sign of rain either. Our front office tends to stick with things they install in the offseason. The blocking clicked last season near mid point and Spags defense never did. Some of us noticed Robinson playing 25 yards off the preseason. Let's hope we aren't 0-6 before it clicks this season. I don't think what we saw on Sunday is going to be a regular part of the Saints defensive scheme. I think it was more of specific plan for the falcons and their deep roster of wide receivers. The plan didn't work. I think the fact the Saints drafted a press corner and brought in Champ, another press corner indicates they plan on much more man coverage than what we saw on Sunday.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by NonieT And why Rob Ryan thought it would work when it didn't work for Spags is beyond me. Well, that is when that whole insignificant tackling thingy comes into play. 195 yards after the catch. MarchingOn likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Film study: Reviewing Saints defense By Mike Triplett Originally Posted by Danno Because you let the WR get to full speed as you start to turn and run. You've lost the race two steps into it. You only play that far off in zone, then you expect safety help after the WR leaves your zone. Reminder: We suck at zone. It was more tongue in cheek. When Atlanta has the ball on their 30 and Byrd is in our endzone like he is waiting for a kickoff..... Not gonna get burned is obvious. Then again, maybe Tripplett was laughing when he wrote it.

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