Offense

TheOak · 09-15-2014, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

can we ban people from the site for 24 hours for blaming the O for the debacle.

Take them by the hand and help them understand your side.

We can't go all Peterson on people that refuse to listen.

Barry from MS · 09-15-2014, 05:42 PM

For years this offense feels out the defense for the first 2 possessions then exploits mismatches. If those mismatches are found in the 1st possession, we march down the field fairly easily those first couple of possessions. But if we can't cop a good feel in those first 2 (i.e. @ CLE), the 1st quarter offense looks rancid. I've noticed this over the years in the Payton/Brees era. However, they make the necessary adjustments in-game most of the time if the initial offensive game plan flops due to penalties, turnovers, O-line blocking (or lack thereof), being behind on the scoreboard, etc...

Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I taking Crazy Pills?

dizzle88 · 09-15-2014, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

For years this offense feels out the defense for the first 2 possessions then exploits mismatches. If those mismatches are found in the 1st possession, we march down the field fairly easily those first couple of possessions. But if we can't cop a good feel in those first 2 (i.e. @ CLE), the 1st quarter offense looks rancid. I've noticed this over the years in the Payton/Brees era. However, they make the necessary adjustments in-game most of the time if the initial offensive game plan flops due to penalties, turnovers, O-line blocking (or lack thereof), being behind on the scoreboard, etc...

Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I taking Crazy Pills?

Our offense has always been good at making adjustments, that's why you see Brees and Carmichael studying the photos after a drive is done
Our offense normally gets on track even if they do begin the game struggling, example vs Miami in 2009 - brees threw 3 picks in the first half, second half we outscored the dolphins 43-8

The D look like no adjustments are being made, infuriating to watch

billyt81 · 09-15-2014, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

What personal feelings?

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

hagan714 · 09-15-2014, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

i do not know about all of that but next year when Drew can redo his contract Jimmy should feel better. if he does not then Jimmy will have plenty of company.

NOLA54 · 09-15-2014, 06:48 PM

Our offenses is stale. We need something new & fresh. Has Payton become complacent?

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2014, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

Where did you hear Jimmy was furious? I never heard that.

Utah_Saint · 09-15-2014, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

Jimmy's playing some of the best ball of his career. 78% completions would indicate that not only his he not ignoring any passes but he's catching more than he ever has.

09-15-2014, 05:16 PM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Offense Originally Posted by Euphoria can we ban people from the site for 24 hours for blaming the O for the debacle. Take them by the hand and help them understand your side. We can't go all Peterson on people that refuse to listen.

09-15-2014, 05:42 PM	#22
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offense For years this offense feels out the defense for the first 2 possessions then exploits mismatches. If those mismatches are found in the 1st possession, we march down the field fairly easily those first couple of possessions. But if we can't cop a good feel in those first 2 (i.e. @ CLE), the 1st quarter offense looks rancid. I've noticed this over the years in the Payton/Brees era. However, they make the necessary adjustments in-game most of the time if the initial offensive game plan flops due to penalties, turnovers, O-line blocking (or lack thereof), being behind on the scoreboard, etc... Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I taking Crazy Pills?
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09-15-2014, 05:48 PM	#23
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Offense Originally Posted by Barry from MS For years this offense feels out the defense for the first 2 possessions then exploits mismatches. If those mismatches are found in the 1st possession, we march down the field fairly easily those first couple of possessions. But if we can't cop a good feel in those first 2 (i.e. @ CLE), the 1st quarter offense looks rancid. I've noticed this over the years in the Payton/Brees era. However, they make the necessary adjustments in-game most of the time if the initial offensive game plan flops due to penalties, turnovers, O-line blocking (or lack thereof), being behind on the scoreboard, etc... Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I taking Crazy Pills? Our offense has always been good at making adjustments, that's why you see Brees and Carmichael studying the photos after a drive is done Our offense normally gets on track even if they do begin the game struggling, example vs Miami in 2009 - brees threw 3 picks in the first half, second half we outscored the dolphins 43-8 The D look like no adjustments are being made, infuriating to watch Barry from MS likes this.

09-15-2014, 06:32 PM	#24
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Offense Originally Posted by The Dude What personal feelings? Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder.

09-15-2014, 06:36 PM	#25
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder. i do not know about all of that but next year when Drew can redo his contract Jimmy should feel better. if he does not then Jimmy will have plenty of company.

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09-15-2014, 06:48 PM	#26
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Offense Our offenses is stale. We need something new & fresh. Has Payton become complacent?

09-15-2014, 07:19 PM	#27
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder. Where did you hear Jimmy was furious? I never heard that.

09-15-2014, 07:22 PM	#28
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Offense Originally Posted by billyt81 Jimmy was reportedly furious that after Brees signed his big contract he went on TV and claimed that Jimmy is a TE, so the Saints could pay him less money. He then went on to comment that if Jimmy left, the Saints would be OK. I know this should be just business in the NFL but some of the passes that Jimmy has ignored because they were slightly poor passes made me wonder. Jimmy's playing some of the best ball of his career. 78% completions would indicate that not only his he not ignoring any passes but he's catching more than he ever has.

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