We got fat and sassy this offseason

Jankman8 · 09-29-2014, 01:22 AM

This team looks scared and out of place often. Watch the bad angle Byrd takes on the first Murray TD, then another play where it should have been a tackle for loss instead it`s a 25 yard gain. I hardly see any really tackling, everybody seems so focused on stripping the ball. A stop on third down IS a turnover!!!

Last season the defense got worse as the season went on. We beat up some rookie QB at home, like the Bills game, but other teams also had a field day against us.

The fire on the Dline is non existing, that was there last season. Last year they covered up some holes on the secondary, this year without any real pressure the secondary looks completely lost.

As for the offense: 2 drops on the first drive, that should have gone for a combined 40 yards. Jimmy Graham that looks lost on the field and the fumble just made his performance worse.

Brees seems to have lost his throwing power, don`t get me wrong he made some awsome throws - f.e. Kenny Stills 46 yarder - but the short bullets I have not seen this year.

WillSaints81 · 09-29-2014, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jankman8

This team looks scared and out of place often. Watch the bad angle Byrd takes on the first Murray TD, then another play where it should have been a tackle for loss instead it`s a 25 yard gain. I hardly see any really tackling, everybody seems so focused on stripping the ball. A stop on third down IS a turnover!!!

Last season the defense got worse as the season went on. We beat up some rookie QB at home, like the Bills game, but other teams also had a field day against us.

The fire on the Dline is non existing, that was there last season. Last year they covered up some holes on the secondary, this year without any real pressure the secondary looks completely lost.

As for the offense: 2 drops on the first drive, that should have gone for a combined 40 yards. Jimmy Graham that looks lost on the field and the fumble just made his performance worse.

Brees seems to have lost his throwing power, don`t get me wrong he made some awsome throws - f.e. Kenny Stills 46 yarder - but the short bullets I have not seen this year.

Were we watching the same games? 45-17 against Romo at home is a field day allowed? I can't remember the Carolina score think 34-13 but not sure. And we also held Carolina to 17 points in their place week 16, it was our offense that was awful that game.

hagan714 · 09-29-2014, 02:22 AM

Reading press clipping and eating boudain is the best way to get mentality ready for the season baby.

The entire team does not have it's head screwed on right. some more than others but as a unit they are totally dysfunctional and running on 1 out 8 cylinders.

there is no fire. no desire.

NOLA54 · 09-29-2014, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Reading press clipping and eating boudain is the best way to get mentality ready for the season baby.

The entire team does not have it's head screwed on right. some more than others but as a unit they are totally dysfunctional and running on 1 out 8 cylinders.

there is no fire. no desire.

I totally agree.

WHODATINCA · 09-29-2014, 02:55 AM

^ I agree with the mental angle. Sean Payton just looked tired and lost & disgusted. He didn't seem angry -- contrast that with Mike Tomlin's post game presser. He was pissed. SP didn't say we will get this ship righted. It is concerning. They aren't playing like a "team".

SaintFanQ · 09-29-2014, 03:18 AM

Never thought I would be saying this but it seems like Payton and Ryan have run out of ideas in this game tonight!!!

Hope they can get things back on track for the rest of the season!!!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

dizzle88 · 09-29-2014, 05:54 AM

I feel for the rookies and younger players because the veterans are really making a bad example

Junior - got paid, doesn't care anymore
Byrd - 56 mil for 1 forced fumble in week 1
Jimmy - catches what passes he wants and drops the ones he has to make an effort for
Brees - throwing into triple coverage like its a great idea
Lofton - scott shanle was faster than him
Kenny vaccaro - man did that pick look great last year, he's terrible this year

Mardigras9 · 09-29-2014, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Lofton - scott shanle was faster than him

Alright now that's just too far.

Foot Stomper · 09-29-2014, 06:53 AM

Fat, lazy, sassy, complacent, lost, lack of desire, lack of fire are all good descriptions for this team. I don't think we are even close to turning it around either. We have issues all over the roster of mediocre players playing poor and our high priced stars playing medicore. Where did it really start to unravel? I thought the cushy Greenbrier TC is where it started but looking deeper I think it goes back earlier. I am not sure if you can draw a distinct line but Drews $100M, bounty gate suspensions/draft pick losses, loss of key vets that now look great on other teams, aging roster at key spots are all places to look. Coaching doesn't get a pass either. ST's (other than Punter) continue to be pitiful. Defense is yet again an issue. Poor tacking, out of position, no turnovers, no pass rush. Our once feared Offense is sputtering with issues at play calling, execution and just a look of staleness. We may be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Brees era if not the Brees and Payton era when we look back to this time down the road. As fans, we are abit spoiled perhaps. I know I am but as a fan I am afforded that luxury. At least I hope I am. At least we have those memories because I am afraid that is all we will have for some time as this fix will not be overnight.

saintsfan1976 · 09-29-2014, 07:04 AM

I'll admit that Greenbriar Resort for training camp sounded cushy to me too.

Regardless the level of talent should overcome the first two losses.

Maybe we need to go back there for the bye week and bury the memories

09-29-2014, 01:22 AM	#1
Jankman8 Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Austria, Europe Posts: 374	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason This team looks scared and out of place often. Watch the bad angle Byrd takes on the first Murray TD, then another play where it should have been a tackle for loss instead it`s a 25 yard gain. I hardly see any really tackling, everybody seems so focused on stripping the ball. A stop on third down IS a turnover!!! Last season the defense got worse as the season went on. We beat up some rookie QB at home, like the Bills game, but other teams also had a field day against us. The fire on the Dline is non existing, that was there last season. Last year they covered up some holes on the secondary, this year without any real pressure the secondary looks completely lost. As for the offense: 2 drops on the first drive, that should have gone for a combined 40 yards. Jimmy Graham that looks lost on the field and the fumble just made his performance worse. Brees seems to have lost his throwing power, don`t get me wrong he made some awsome throws - f.e. Kenny Stills 46 yarder - but the short bullets I have not seen this year. MatthewT and hagan714 like this.

09-29-2014, 04:24 PM	#2
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason Originally Posted by Jankman8 This team looks scared and out of place often. Watch the bad angle Byrd takes on the first Murray TD, then another play where it should have been a tackle for loss instead it`s a 25 yard gain. I hardly see any really tackling, everybody seems so focused on stripping the ball. A stop on third down IS a turnover!!! Last season the defense got worse as the season went on. We beat up some rookie QB at home, like the Bills game, but other teams also had a field day against us. The fire on the Dline is non existing, that was there last season. Last year they covered up some holes on the secondary, this year without any real pressure the secondary looks completely lost. As for the offense: 2 drops on the first drive, that should have gone for a combined 40 yards. Jimmy Graham that looks lost on the field and the fumble just made his performance worse. Brees seems to have lost his throwing power, don`t get me wrong he made some awsome throws - f.e. Kenny Stills 46 yarder - but the short bullets I have not seen this year. Were we watching the same games? 45-17 against Romo at home is a field day allowed? I can't remember the Carolina score think 34-13 but not sure. And we also held Carolina to 17 points in their place week 16, it was our offense that was awful that game. teddybarexxx and saintsfan403 like this.

09-29-2014, 02:22 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason Reading press clipping and eating boudain is the best way to get mentality ready for the season baby. The entire team does not have it's head screwed on right. some more than others but as a unit they are totally dysfunctional and running on 1 out 8 cylinders. there is no fire. no desire. Papa Voodoo likes this.

09-29-2014, 06:29 PM	#4
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason Originally Posted by hagan714 Reading press clipping and eating boudain is the best way to get mentality ready for the season baby. The entire team does not have it's head screwed on right. some more than others but as a unit they are totally dysfunctional and running on 1 out 8 cylinders. there is no fire. no desire. I totally agree.

09-29-2014, 02:55 AM	#5
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason ^ I agree with the mental angle. Sean Payton just looked tired and lost & disgusted. He didn't seem angry -- contrast that with Mike Tomlin's post game presser. He was pissed. SP didn't say we will get this ship righted. It is concerning. They aren't playing like a "team".

09-29-2014, 03:18 AM	#6
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 801	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason Never thought I would be saying this but it seems like Payton and Ryan have run out of ideas in this game tonight!!! Hope they can get things back on track for the rest of the season!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!! Papa Voodoo likes this.

09-29-2014, 05:54 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason I feel for the rookies and younger players because the veterans are really making a bad example Junior - got paid, doesn't care anymore Byrd - 56 mil for 1 forced fumble in week 1 Jimmy - catches what passes he wants and drops the ones he has to make an effort for Brees - throwing into triple coverage like its a great idea Lofton - scott shanle was faster than him Kenny vaccaro - man did that pick look great last year, he's terrible this year foreverfan and Papa Voodoo like this.

09-29-2014, 08:44 AM	#8
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason Originally Posted by dizzle88 Lofton - scott shanle was faster than him Alright now that's just too far.

09-29-2014, 06:53 AM	#9
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason Fat, lazy, sassy, complacent, lost, lack of desire, lack of fire are all good descriptions for this team. I don't think we are even close to turning it around either. We have issues all over the roster of mediocre players playing poor and our high priced stars playing medicore. Where did it really start to unravel? I thought the cushy Greenbrier TC is where it started but looking deeper I think it goes back earlier. I am not sure if you can draw a distinct line but Drews $100M, bounty gate suspensions/draft pick losses, loss of key vets that now look great on other teams, aging roster at key spots are all places to look. Coaching doesn't get a pass either. ST's (other than Punter) continue to be pitiful. Defense is yet again an issue. Poor tacking, out of position, no turnovers, no pass rush. Our once feared Offense is sputtering with issues at play calling, execution and just a look of staleness. We may be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Brees era if not the Brees and Payton era when we look back to this time down the road. As fans, we are abit spoiled perhaps. I know I am but as a fan I am afforded that luxury. At least I hope I am. At least we have those memories because I am afraid that is all we will have for some time as this fix will not be overnight. MatthewT, foreverfan and Papa Voodoo like this.

09-29-2014, 07:04 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We got fat and sassy this offseason I'll admit that Greenbriar Resort for training camp sounded cushy to me too. Regardless the level of talent should overcome the first two losses. Maybe we need to go back there for the bye week and bury the memories

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