WHODATINCA

^ I agree with the mental angle. Sean Payton just looked tired and lost & disgusted. He didn't seem angry -- contrast that with Mike Tomlin's post game presser. He was pissed. SP didn't say we will get this ship righted. It is concerning. They aren't playing like a "team".

SaintFanQ

Never thought I would be saying this but it seems like Payton and Ryan have run out of ideas in this game tonight!!!

Hope they can get things back on track for the rest of the season!!!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

dizzle88

I feel for the rookies and younger players because the veterans are really making a bad example

Junior - got paid, doesn't care anymore
Byrd - 56 mil for 1 forced fumble in week 1
Jimmy - catches what passes he wants and drops the ones he has to make an effort for
Brees - throwing into triple coverage like its a great idea
Lofton - scott shanle was faster than him
Kenny vaccaro - man did that pick look great last year, he's terrible this year

Foot Stomper

Fat, lazy, sassy, complacent, lost, lack of desire, lack of fire are all good descriptions for this team. I don't think we are even close to turning it around either. We have issues all over the roster of mediocre players playing poor and our high priced stars playing medicore. Where did it really start to unravel? I thought the cushy Greenbrier TC is where it started but looking deeper I think it goes back earlier. I am not sure if you can draw a distinct line but Drews $100M, bounty gate suspensions/draft pick losses, loss of key vets that now look great on other teams, aging roster at key spots are all places to look. Coaching doesn't get a pass either. ST's (other than Punter) continue to be pitiful. Defense is yet again an issue. Poor tacking, out of position, no turnovers, no pass rush. Our once feared Offense is sputtering with issues at play calling, execution and just a look of staleness. We may be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Brees era if not the Brees and Payton era when we look back to this time down the road. As fans, we are abit spoiled perhaps. I know I am but as a fan I am afforded that luxury. At least I hope I am. At least we have those memories because I am afraid that is all we will have for some time as this fix will not be overnight.

saintsfan1976

I'll admit that Greenbriar Resort for training camp sounded cushy to me too.

Regardless the level of talent should overcome the first two losses.

Maybe we need to go back there for the bye week and bury the memories

Mr.Riaton

The Greenbriar Resort was supposed to be a refreshing change of pace. Cooler temperatures should've turned into longer,more effective practices....in theory anyways. I can't really point the finger to anyone or anything in particular. I do know that,for some reason,the fire on both sides is not there. Say what you want about our corners,and trust me, I know they're not great,but our defensive woes point to D line and coaching. Offensively, we've lost that electric,well executed play making. Although we have a mediocre O line, we have all the tools to be a really good offense. Maybe Sean has lost the team for whatever reason. All I can say is I look at it like this.... This is not the first time Sean has had a losing team. I have faith that we will rebound. We may have to wait until next year. I usually wait till at least half the season to make an assessment on a team,but I don't have much optimism with this team and that's OK. I know there are some seasons where the fortune isn't there for some teams. I will, however ,continue to watch every game faithfully as I always have and hope for the best. If anything,we'll just have a great spot in the draft next year!

brees84

This offseason I was reading how Arizona players are sweating (big temperatures) and having difficult time in training camp. On the other side we were having a great time in Greenbriar. They are 3:0 we are 1:3.

Mardigras9

Alright now that's just too far.

Danno

Agreed, whats up with hating on White? He looks like our best DB so far.

Jenkins and Harper looked better than Byrd and Vaccaro do now. Lewis is also getting toasted as well.

Mardigras9

I didn't think Lewis did that bad overall against Bryant. The extreme lack of pressure is just letting everyone we play pick us apart at will. Hell there were a few times we couldn't even get the right amount of players on the field defensively.