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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jjasso007 Last season we were legit, and this season we're having problems in the secondary though we have pretty much the same personnel. What I have noticed is that our CB's are lining up 7-10 yards away ...

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Old 10-01-2014, 08:50 AM   #1
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Re: Defense question

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Last season we were legit, and this season we're having problems in the secondary though we have pretty much the same personnel. What I have noticed is that our CB's are lining up 7-10 yards away from the receivers, which is reminding me of the old "bend but don't break" defense we used to have before Greg Williams that didn't work either. SO, what I want to know, if anyone remembers, how were our CBs playing receivers last year? Were they lining up as they are now or is this something new this season?
Its pretty simple. Last year we had a pass rush, this year we do not.
Without a solid front 7, any secondary will get toasted, and this is proven over and over again and again.

I don't remember playing our CB's so far off last year. This is McGriffs second season so maybe its got his fingerprints all over it.

I see something that reminds me so much of 2012 I wanna throw up. After getting toasted on a long gainer our CB's look confused. They're palms are up wondering who was supposed to cover who. That didn't hapen a whole lot last year.

Another thing that reminds me of 2012 is so many missed tackles and gaping holes to run through.

I think the talent is there to be much better than what we see now, even with our sub-par LB's. They just aren't all on the same page it appears.
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Its pretty simple. Last year we had a pass rush, this year we do not.
Without a solid front 7, any secondary will get toasted, and this is proven over and over again and again.
Exactly, and that is end of story!
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Re: Defense question

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Its pretty simple. Last year we had a pass rush, this year we do not.
Without a solid front 7, any secondary will get toasted, and this is proven over and over again and again.

I don't remember playing our CB's so far off last year. This is McGriffs second season so maybe its got his fingerprints all over it.

I see something that reminds me so much of 2012 I wanna throw up. After getting toasted on a long gainer our CB's look confused. They're palms are up wondering who was supposed to cover who. That didn't hapen a whole lot last year.

Another thing that reminds me of 2012 is so many missed tackles and gaping holes to run through.

I think the talent is there to be much better than what we see now, even with our sub-par LB's. They just aren't all on the same page it appears.
Agree and one more thing is the emphasis placed on turnovers where every D player is now trying to strip the ball instead of just tackling. Wrap up the guy first then someone else comes in for the strip. There is only 1 Peanut Tillman and he is probably retired soon with that injury!
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Old 10-02-2014, 10:25 AM   #4
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Agree and one more thing is the emphasis placed on turnovers where every D player is now trying to strip the ball instead of just tackling. Wrap up the guy first then someone else comes in for the strip.
Can't agree more here, the trying to punch the ball loose has only allowed the run to continue that much further. Make the tackle and limit the damage as much as possible.
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