PFF Grades vs Tampa

K Major · 10-08-2014, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Vaccaro played a lot better in the Bucs game, a lot better than the previous games...

It almost seems that he and Bush trust each other more

I might be in the minority here but Kenny V has regressed in his play.

Although he was slightly better against the Bucs, his overall tackling over the last few weeks has been poor and unacceptable at the safety position.

Boutte · 10-08-2014, 06:06 PM

What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

WHODATINCA · 10-08-2014, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

Did he get paid? That unfortunately seems to be a predictive metric.

Barry from MS · 10-08-2014, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

I know he was fighting a back injury last year...that doesn't go away too easily.

And he got a 7 yr/$56.7 mil with $19 mil in the first year. Signed it before the 2010 season.

My guess is the back issue. It ages you quickly...trust me.

Barry from MS · 10-08-2014, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I might be in the minority here but Kenny V has regressed in his play.

Although he was slightly better against the Bucs, his overall tackling over the last few weeks has been poor and unacceptable at the safety position.

Naw, man, you ain't the minority. A few of us have thought the same thing. Sophomore Slump, nagging injury, personal issues...who knows?

whybag · 10-08-2014, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

White got burned on that endzone shot (not sure why he pulled his hand back);

When I saw that flag go down, I thought for sure it was offensive PI, because no way would a corner be that far behind unless he got pushed back.

Hell if I wasn't wrong. Dead wrong. How do you get that far behind, THEN pull your hand back from the ball in flight?

saintsfan1976 · 10-09-2014, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by whybag

When I saw that flag go down, I thought for sure it was offensive PI, because no way would a corner be that far behind unless he got pushed back.

Hell if I wasn't wrong. Dead wrong. How do you get that far behind, THEN pull your hand back from the ball in flight?

I'll tell you how. Go outside. Run backwards, turn, run, turn again, spin your head around and then jump backwards while reaching in the air. How'd you do?

saintsfan1976 · 10-09-2014, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Naw, man, you ain't the minority. A few of us have thought the same thing. Sophomore Slump, nagging injury, personal issues...who knows?

Totally disagree. Previously I though KV played "average" vs Tampa but that was with his penalties. He was finally flying all over the field like last year.

Ryan put him in a single role vs TB instead of 3 or 4 responsibilities. Maybe you noticed him playing more SS??

It helped and he's admittedly moving faster since breaking his ankle.

NonieT · 10-10-2014, 12:23 PM

He said the 1st 4 weeks his ankle was a little sore. He said now he is finally 100%. That might have a little to do with what was going on.

Rugby Saint II · 10-11-2014, 03:16 PM

Colston and Galette are my two biggest surprises.

10-08-2014, 06:00 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Vaccaro played a lot better in the Bucs game, a lot better than the previous games... It almost seems that he and Bush trust each other more I might be in the minority here but Kenny V has regressed in his play. Although he was slightly better against the Bucs, his overall tackling over the last few weeks has been poor and unacceptable at the safety position. Barry from MS likes this.

10-08-2014, 06:06 PM	#22
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it. FinSaint likes this.

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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Boutte What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it. Did he get paid? That unfortunately seems to be a predictive metric. Danno likes this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Boutte What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it. I know he was fighting a back injury last year...that doesn't go away too easily. And he got a 7 yr/$56.7 mil with $19 mil in the first year. Signed it before the 2010 season. My guess is the back issue. It ages you quickly...trust me. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by K Major I might be in the minority here but Kenny V has regressed in his play. Although he was slightly better against the Bucs, his overall tackling over the last few weeks has been poor and unacceptable at the safety position. Naw, man, you ain't the minority. A few of us have thought the same thing. Sophomore Slump, nagging injury, personal issues...who knows?

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by whybag When I saw that flag go down, I thought for sure it was offensive PI, because no way would a corner be that far behind unless he got pushed back. Hell if I wasn't wrong. Dead wrong. How do you get that far behind, THEN pull your hand back from the ball in flight? I'll tell you how. Go outside. Run backwards, turn, run, turn again, spin your head around and then jump backwards while reaching in the air. How'd you do? Boutte likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Barry from MS Naw, man, you ain't the minority. A few of us have thought the same thing. Sophomore Slump, nagging injury, personal issues...who knows? Totally disagree. Previously I though KV played "average" vs Tampa but that was with his penalties. He was finally flying all over the field like last year. Ryan put him in a single role vs TB instead of 3 or 4 responsibilities. Maybe you noticed him playing more SS?? It helped and he's admittedly moving faster since breaking his ankle.

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