PFF Grades vs Tampa

FinSaint · 10-07-2014, 07:26 PM

I'm really starting to worry about Evans - he has looked pretty awful the past couple of games.

Jenkins, on the other hand, looked pretty good considering his situation - he was able to create some nice interior push on couple of plays, but seemed to tire quite quickly, which is to be expected.

I still don't like the contract they gave to Galette.

Barry from MS · 10-07-2014, 08:06 PM

Our O-Line is built to run the ball (finally) as we are 2nd in the NFL in average per rush. Freakin Armstead is a stud in the run and Grubbs, too, for that matter. Where did that last run by Robinson to seal the win go? Armstead's and Grubbs' side. It is a great sign moving forward.

I am also very impressed with our O-Line depth so far. Yeah, you read that right. Lelito coming in for Goodwin the last 2 games and it seems the pass protection is a bit better. Lelito is not spectacular, but solid.

Then, there's Bryce Harris...I love this dude. Comes in at LT last week, and he didn't play light's out but he held his own. Then, he comes in at RT this week and is solid. I love that he can step in there at either tackle position and get it done. That's what you absolutely need from a back-up O-lineman.

Call me crazy, but our O-line depth is not as bad as I thought coming into the season. Coaches know what they're doing in that regard.

WHODATINCA · 10-08-2014, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Our O-Line is built to run the ball (finally) as we are 2nd in the NFL in average per rush.

Now can our receivers please catch the ball and can the O-line remember how to give our QB time to throw the ball?

I can't believe our O-Line is #9 at pass blocking.

Barry from MS · 10-08-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Now can our receivers please catch the ball and can the O-line remember how to give our QB time to throw the ball?

I can't believe our O-Line is #9 at pass blocking.

You got me on that one, too. Drew has been sacked 4 times in 218 pass attempts, but that can so be misleading.

So, I reckon the #25 through #32 pass blocking lines were either:

1) using 3-4 linemen blocking for pass attempts
2) having most of the linemen fall down on half of the pass attempts

Utah_Saint · 10-11-2014, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Our O-Line is built to run the ball (finally) as we are 2nd in the NFL in average per rush. Freakin Armstead is a stud in the run and Grubbs, too, for that matter. Where did that last run by Robinson to seal the win go? Armstead's and Grubbs' side. It is a great sign moving forward.

I am also very impressed with our O-Line depth so far. Yeah, you read that right. Lelito coming in for Goodwin the last 2 games and it seems the pass protection is a bit better. Lelito is not spectacular, but solid.

Then, there's Bryce Harris...I love this dude. Comes in at LT last week, and he didn't play light's out but he held his own. Then, he comes in at RT this week and is solid. I love that he can step in there at either tackle position and get it done. That's what you absolutely need from a back-up O-lineman.

Call me crazy, but our O-line depth is not as bad as I thought coming into the season. Coaches know what they're doing in that regard.

I love the run blocking. We should take advantage of it more often.

Lelito has been a pleasant surprise at center considering how bad he was at guard last year.

But I've got to disagree about Harris. He played terrible. He got pushed around almost every play in Dallas. And in my opinion, he was the biggest single reason why our offense couldn't get anything going against da boys.

Boutte · 10-08-2014, 05:06 PM

What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

WHODATINCA · 10-08-2014, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

Did he get paid? That unfortunately seems to be a predictive metric.

Barry from MS · 10-08-2014, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it.

I know he was fighting a back injury last year...that doesn't go away too easily.

And he got a 7 yr/$56.7 mil with $19 mil in the first year. Signed it before the 2010 season.

My guess is the back issue. It ages you quickly...trust me.

Rugby Saint II · 10-11-2014, 02:16 PM

Colston and Galette are my two biggest surprises.

10-07-2014, 07:26 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa I'm really starting to worry about Evans - he has looked pretty awful the past couple of games. Jenkins, on the other hand, looked pretty good considering his situation - he was able to create some nice interior push on couple of plays, but seemed to tire quite quickly, which is to be expected. I still don't like the contract they gave to Galette.

10-07-2014, 08:06 PM	#2
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Our O-Line is built to run the ball (finally) as we are 2nd in the NFL in average per rush. Freakin Armstead is a stud in the run and Grubbs, too, for that matter. Where did that last run by Robinson to seal the win go? Armstead's and Grubbs' side. It is a great sign moving forward. I am also very impressed with our O-Line depth so far. Yeah, you read that right. Lelito coming in for Goodwin the last 2 games and it seems the pass protection is a bit better. Lelito is not spectacular, but solid. Then, there's Bryce Harris...I love this dude. Comes in at LT last week, and he didn't play light's out but he held his own. Then, he comes in at RT this week and is solid. I love that he can step in there at either tackle position and get it done. That's what you absolutely need from a back-up O-lineman. Call me crazy, but our O-line depth is not as bad as I thought coming into the season. Coaches know what they're doing in that regard. mleg1972 likes this.
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10-08-2014, 04:45 PM	#4
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by WHODATINCA Now can our receivers please catch the ball and can the O-line remember how to give our QB time to throw the ball? I can't believe our O-Line is #9 at pass blocking. You got me on that one, too. Drew has been sacked 4 times in 218 pass attempts, but that can so be misleading. So, I reckon the #25 through #32 pass blocking lines were either: 1) using 3-4 linemen blocking for pass attempts 2) having most of the linemen fall down on half of the pass attempts

10-11-2014, 02:59 PM	#5
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Barry from MS Our O-Line is built to run the ball (finally) as we are 2nd in the NFL in average per rush. Freakin Armstead is a stud in the run and Grubbs, too, for that matter. Where did that last run by Robinson to seal the win go? Armstead's and Grubbs' side. It is a great sign moving forward. I am also very impressed with our O-Line depth so far. Yeah, you read that right. Lelito coming in for Goodwin the last 2 games and it seems the pass protection is a bit better. Lelito is not spectacular, but solid. Then, there's Bryce Harris...I love this dude. Comes in at LT last week, and he didn't play light's out but he held his own. Then, he comes in at RT this week and is solid. I love that he can step in there at either tackle position and get it done. That's what you absolutely need from a back-up O-lineman. Call me crazy, but our O-line depth is not as bad as I thought coming into the season. Coaches know what they're doing in that regard. I love the run blocking. We should take advantage of it more often. Lelito has been a pleasant surprise at center considering how bad he was at guard last year. But I've got to disagree about Harris. He played terrible. He got pushed around almost every play in Dallas. And in my opinion, he was the biggest single reason why our offense couldn't get anything going against da boys.

10-08-2014, 05:06 PM	#6
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it. FinSaint likes this.

10-08-2014, 12:25 AM	#3
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Barry from MS Our O-Line is built to run the ball (finally) as we are 2nd in the NFL in average per rush. Now can our receivers please catch the ball and can the O-line remember how to give our QB time to throw the ball? I can't believe our O-Line is #9 at pass blocking.

10-08-2014, 06:23 PM	#7
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Boutte What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it. Did he get paid? That unfortunately seems to be a predictive metric. Danno likes this.

10-08-2014, 06:51 PM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Originally Posted by Boutte What's up with Evans? How can you go from being one of the best guards in the league to being bad in 2 years. And he's not old so that isn't it. I know he was fighting a back injury last year...that doesn't go away too easily. And he got a 7 yr/$56.7 mil with $19 mil in the first year. Signed it before the 2010 season. My guess is the back issue. It ages you quickly...trust me. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-11-2014, 02:16 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: PFF Grades vs Tampa Colston and Galette are my two biggest surprises.

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