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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; In case you haven\'t heard, the media is filled with Big Ben 12-0 and Brayd loses game against the Dolphins with his uncharacteristic 4 picks and Ben is better than Eli caus eEli is 0-6 and he is 12-0. If ...
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12-27-2004, 01:52 PM | #11 |
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I\'ll type real slow just for you... You can\'t blame or credit a QB without looking at the whole picture.
And if Horn drops a ball, its Aarons fault. If Pathon fumbles at the 2, its Aarons fault. If Gandy and Riley false start twice a quarter, its Aaron\'s fault. If Deuce gets hit 5 yards behind the line, its Aarons fault. If Brooks gets sacked in 2 seconds, by 4 D-linemen at once, its Aarons fault. If McCarthy calls an incredibly predictable gameplan, its Aarons fault. Yea, I\'m starting to get it now.
Don\'t think I actually saw it in your reply. Reload and try again. Its not a hard answer. Stomp once for yes, he got the credit Stomp twice for no, he didn\'t get the credit. I\'ll give you another hint, Dilfer didn\'t get the SB MVP. BTW: Every time the Colts and Vikes play someone with a good defense in the playoffs, they get beat.
I guess according to your logic if the Saints beat the Panthers this week, then Brooks will have won without Deuce, Stecker, and Horn. |
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It seems to me, that without forums like this, issues of performance and strategy cannot make their way (however circuitously) back to those who can make a difference. We collectively hone our shared experiences and insights into coherent and lucent remedies for existing and future problems. We are compelled to do this because we genetic mongrels incapable of accepting mediocrity from our clan. In a culture of \"how can I get gratification quickest,\" and in particular when the topic of the Saints, the most obvious solution is to ignore them and hope they\'ll go away. For those who chose to howl at the moon, we do so because we know that true gratification comes with the pain of achieving more than what is expected.
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12-27-2004, 02:27 PM | #13 |
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Danno, I would continue this, but I don\'t wanna get warned. It\'s easy to see you are the type who sees what you wanna see and makes out of things what you want. Here\'s an example of why there is no need for me to continue:
Here\'s another example:
So since your mind is made up, and not only will you read what you wanna but you will throw others arguments in and battle them as if they are mine, I see no reason to continue.
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12-27-2004, 02:33 PM | #14 |
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OK, so Brooks isn\'t the best QB ever. He\'s better than Hebert and that was the last QB we had that took us to the playoffs. Brooks has way more touchdowns than Hebert and won the Saints\' only playoff game ever.
Remember when we had the 2 Billy Joes? Wuerffel? I\'ll take AB over those guys any day. As far as the interception in the end zone, Kevin got his hand in and deflected the ball. If he hadn\'t laid out like that, it was a sure TD. It\'s a game of inches. There aren\'t many great QB\'s around for us to go get. If so, Dallas and Arizona would already have them. AB is our QB and that\'s the way it is. I think the problem we have is that AB is streaky and we run this \"Pass to set up the Run\" crap. AB would perform a lot better if we ran Deuce to set up the pass. Lombardi would blow a gasket if he saw our offensive philosophy. We\'re not the Rams. Coach Fox said it best. There are 3 things that can happen on a pass and 2 of them are bad. When you run, you usually hold onto the ball. Duece is a hoss and he needs to be used more in the first quarter the way we used Ricky. It would take a lot of pressure off of AB so he could play within his game. Hind sight is always 20-20, but we have to fight for and with the team we have. No one would have picked Carolina to go to the show last year so two tears in a bucket, f*** it! |
12-27-2004, 02:37 PM | #15 |
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I truly wish I could write like that. I do enjoy it. Welcome aboard xan. |
12-27-2004, 02:45 PM | #16 |
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I\'m howling with you xan. Someone at some point has to see the logic in what is being said about the team and bring about change. Medicority is far too easily accepted by too many of our bretheren.
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I come to the board to read. I am not a heavy poster as my stats will tell, but I read these boards at least once a day to catch up on the latest Saint\'s news and have for almost 3 years since I found you guys. I find that people here are informative once you get past the internet ego and realize that everyone of you is just as biased and full of **** as I am. I post only when I feel I can contribute to a discussion more than just my personal pom-pom waving or revolting disdain for the topic.
I use this board to learn about my favorite team, so that in my line of work as a bartender, I can be informed and opinioned on every topic relating to the Saints, and B&G.net members do a great job of searching the depths of the internet for any news related to the Saints and posting them here, making this forum absolutely the best compilation of Saints information on the web. Also, when someone disagrees with the way I feel and doesnt provide facts enough to convince me otherwise, I dismiss it and move on regardless of how many times they try to force feed it to me. Likewise, I will never take the bait of of someone trying to start an argument based on opinion and emotion, and not fact because it only leads to tempers and drama and dozens of worthless posts that we all have to scroll through to get any information that may be worthwhile. Plus...its Christmas, dude. =) |
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12-27-2004, 04:08 PM | #18 |
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I come here to read what others feel about the team that I support and love. However, I do have an opinion about the personnel. Some of it is negative, because, like Xan, I know that they are not giving 110% to the effort. Why do I come to this board. I post more here than anywhere, because I get respect, civil and intelligent answers, that are well thought out and cleverly put. Danno, you and whodi are two of my favorites. I like and respect what you both have to say. I like the two perspectives on the team, the coaches, and the personnel. I also like your responses to my posts. This is a fact. This board is a more football oriented, mature, intelligent, and civil place than any other that I have seen. Maybe it\'s because Halo, Who Dat and Black and Blue keep the riff raff out. But I don\'t see any of the trash like AB DA MAN! AB SUCK! YOU SUCK! HIS STATS ARE GREAT;THEREFORE HE\'S GREAT! and all of the pap and stupidity that you see on the SR.Com boards or the old New Orleans Saints.Com board. It got so bad that they finally, douched in down the drain. There is a tendency to dog Brooks. I believe that he deserves every thing that is dished out, because of the way that he has handled the situation. I, like you, believe that Brooks is at best, mediocre. He is horribly inconsistent. But, like it or not, the Head Coach and the Quarterback are the lightning rods of praise and criticism for whatever befalls their team. MY TWO CENTS!!! :P |
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Ok Saintswhodi... My last reply...
I\'ll use your quotes. \"Brooks is terrible, or do you watch the games? Has an AB led team ever beaten a Delhomme led team? The QB gets credit for wins, and blamed for losses (according to media outlets). That is not my opinion, its the media\'s. Get it? This team is winning DESPITE Aaron Brooks.\" Sorry if I mistook that for blaming Aaron Brooks. What was I thinking? Danno - Points out OTHER problems on offense in addition to a \"not-so-great, but not terrible\" Brooks Saintswhodi - \"So an offense that goes 3 & out EVERY 1st quarter is fine with you?\" Danno - Points out Dilfer didn\'t get credit for SB win. Saintswhodi - \"But wait, you say wins/losses are decided by defense\" I think its pretty clear who sees things the way they want to. |
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RDOX, thanks for the kind words.
Danno, :shrug: I know you may know what you meant, but the rest of us are at a loss. I\'ll just let it go since if I say the disagreement is going a certain way, you will do the same and not be original or respond to the post. Have a happy holiday. No need to argue. Your boy Brooks is leading us to the playoffs. xrotflmao: |