saintswhodi

This kinda reminds me of Ben Stiller in Dodgeball when he goes, \"I know that I am not as smart as you thought that I thought that you thought that I thought that I thought I was,\" and everyone just looks at him. lol Just struck me as similar, and just about as funny. Happy Christmahanakwanzaka to all!!!!!!!!

Danno

Happy holidays also. Play safe. I\'d be curious as to how many didn\'t understand my take. Maybe I don\'t ar-tic-u-late enough when I write. AB is not my boy, never said he was, I do want him replaced, among others.
I also think we have about a 1-in-3 shot of the SAINTS beating the PANTHERS.

Oooops, I said that was my last Oh, well.
Peace and remember, whether we agree or disagree, its all for Him.

spkb25

its really as simple as this one player has never and will never win or loose games for a team by themselves. if they did detroit would have won the super bowl with barry. chicago got only one with walter. marino never won one. elway wouldnt have without davis. neither did jim kelly or warren moon but trent dilfer did. so did doug williams and joe theisman. then there was one other qb that won it for joe gibbs it was either jay shroeder or rypien. three super bowls with three different qb\'s.
the qb is not responsible for all of the wins or all of the losses. the strength you need at qb depends on the strength you have at other positions. what really is the most important position on any team is your o and d lines. brooks is not a great qb so far. he has the potential to be really good. he makes some bad plays that leaves you shaking your head at times. also i expected more out of him this year. our d has been the worst in the league this year. the worst. that is the problem with our team. but even with brooks not playing really well the last three weeks with better play from our d we were still able to win. if we can get the same play from the d this week and a strong game from brooks ( he is due isnt he) deuce and horn we have a chance to make the playoffs.
does that mean i think we will win i only hope we will because carolina is playing great ball right now. but we have the team to beat them if we play hard and smart.

Your team stinks

JOESAM2002

Good to see you lads finally cooling down. Please don\'t make me thump ya! :rollinglaugh:

JOESAM2002

Do you guys really think I\'m going to let you have a pissing contest? You know me better than that. Chill out.

stockman311

This appears to be the Brooks thread so I will throw in my two sense. Brooks is a top 15 QB on the planet. Would you rather have Vinny Testeverde? Kyle Boller? Whoever is starting for the 49ers this week? A.J. Feely? Trent Dilfer? Mark Bulger? Whoever the Browns are starting this week? Josh McCown? Kerry Collins?
Here is the list of starting QB\'s I would take over Brooks that aren\'t rookies:
Favre
P. Manning
D. Culpepper
C. Pennington
M. Vick
D. Brees
T. Green
J. Delhomme
B. Leftwich
C. Palmer
S. McNair
So that means I have Brooks as the 12th best QB on the planet.
Now listen, Brooks drives me nuts. I own a two story house and I watch all Saints games on the second floor which is not a good idea if you take my meaning. But when Brooks is hot he is smoking hot and when his line isn\'t playing the role of a sieve he is excellent. Does anyone remember the play he made against Tampa two weeks ago? 4th and twelve game and season on the line. 1st down Brooks! There is only one other QB in the league that makes that play and I think you know his name.
My major problem with Brooks is that he tends to make the worst decisions at the worst possible times. He doesn\'t pick up the blitz and hit his hot reads well at all. Basically, he is not a cerebral QB. But when the OLine plays well and his receivers are not dropping every other ball thrown to them Brooks is a top 5 QB in this league and probably the fourth most athletically gifted QB behind Vick, Culpepper, and McNabb.
I personally feel like we are going to beat the Panthers this week and make it to the playoffs. I wouldn\'t watch the game if I didn\'t feel this way. I also remember Brooks beating the unbeatable Rams in 2000 with no Ricky Williams and no Joe Horn in the playoffs.
Sunday will tell the tale.

[Edited on 28/12/2004 by stockman311]

[Edited on 28/12/2004 by stockman311]

saintswhodi

And here all this time I thought it was Az Hakim\'s fumble and recovery by (Milne? Milner?) that won that game. Silly me.

Danno

please tell me you didn\'t really think that did you?
I hope you\'re kidding. I\'ve read enough of your posts to know you can\'t possibly be serious.

saintswhodi

To quote you Danno: \"It takes 53 players to win in the NFL. One player can not win or lose a game.\"

I was being sarcastic in response to as if noone else suited up that day, as if we were stopping the Rams offense at all, and as if we all didn\'t think the Rams would have scored had we not had Az Hakim to thank for fumbling the ball.

So essentially it goes, if we win, Brooks beat someone, in this case the entire Rams team, but if we lose, it is terrible o-line dropped passes, yatta yatta, everything except Brooks. I get it. Brooks must be 34-0 since he became the starter while the team is 34-35 since he took over. Cool. No wonder he doesn\'t try to get better, he is undefeated. It\'s the team that loses.

[Edited on 28/12/2004 by saintswhodi]

Danno

WHEW, Sorry, but there are actually peole that believe that Milne is THE reson we won that game.