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Old 12-27-2004, 12:52 PM   #11
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In case you haven\'t heard, the media is filled with Big Ben 12-0 and Brayd loses game against the Dolphins with his uncharacteristic 4 picks and Ben is better than Eli caus eEli is 0-6 and he is 12-0.
If you don\'t see those reports, you either choose not to watch ESPN, Fox Sunday Countdown or CBS pregame show. ALso choose to ignore ESPN\'s web page, the NFL\'s, and any other reports. Reload that answer and try again.
If you choose to ignore a QB\'s supporting cast then there\'s no way I\'ll ever convince you it matters. I guess you think Dilfer was a better QB than Marino huh?



This isn\'t my logic, it\'s how it works. Like I said, if you choose to avoid the main media sports outlets, you won\'t see this. Once again, this is where the media places the blame mainly, the qb. Should I say it again to get the point across? Media=blame qbs for losses and praise them for wins. I will repeat it further down so you won\'t again draw the inference that that is my idea. I KNOW it isn\'t all Eli\'s fault the Giants lose, yet all you get out of the news is Eli is 0-6 and he won;t be a Peyton and he is no Ben and blah blah blah. SO say it with me now, media=blames qbs for losses, praises for wins, get it now?
Except when YOU are talking about Brooks.
I\'ll type real slow just for you...
You can\'t blame or credit a QB without looking at the whole picture.
So an offense that goes 3 and out EVERY first quarter and never gives it\'s D a lead is fine with you?
I never said that. Try again. I said its not Brooks fault.
Like I said, glad you aren\'t in the front office. If you can\'t see a direct correlation between horrible plays by the offense and a poor defense, I don\'t know how to expand your range of view. Offense turns the ball over in the redzone, is that the defense\'s fault. INT in the opposing team\'s red zone, I guess that is the defense\'s fault too. Okay.
If you can\'t see that our offensive problems go beyond Brooks, I don\'t think its possible to expand your range of view. And if you think our defense is as bad as it is directly because of the offense then its also not worth trying.
It wasn\'t hard either. AB hands to Deuce, and throws to Horn. Let me make it simple, if AB fumbles the snap, does that effect Horn or Deuce? Yup. If AB throws an INT or a backwards pass, does that effect Horn or Deuce? Yup. Can Horn or Deuce have done anything to change that? Nope. Get it now?
So if Deuce fumbles, it Aarons fault.
And if Horn drops a ball, its Aarons fault.
If Pathon fumbles at the 2, its Aarons fault.
If Gandy and Riley false start twice a quarter, its Aaron\'s fault.
If Deuce gets hit 5 yards behind the line, its Aarons fault.
If Brooks gets sacked in 2 seconds, by 4 D-linemen at once, its Aarons fault.
If McCarthy calls an incredibly predictable gameplan, its Aarons fault.
Yea, I\'m starting to get it now.

Yeah, look at the great defenses the Colts, Vikes, and PAckers have. Playoff teams. I am sure they are hanging their every victory on the defense. lol
So what exactly is your answer to Dilfer getting the credit for the Ravens SB?
Don\'t think I actually saw it in your reply. Reload and try again. Its not a hard answer.
Stomp once for yes, he got the credit
Stomp twice for no, he didn\'t get the credit.
I\'ll give you another hint, Dilfer didn\'t get the SB MVP.
BTW: Every time the Colts and Vikes play someone with a good defense in the playoffs, they get beat.
Way to be sarcastic. Let me know when AB wins a game without Deuce, Stecker, and Horn and then we\'ll talk.
Sometimes what goes around...
I guess according to your logic if the Saints beat the Panthers this week, then Brooks will have won without Deuce, Stecker, and Horn.
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