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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL This is a fallacy. Each game of the season is a mini episode onto itself. The performance (good or bad) in one game does not readily translate into equal performance in the subsequent game or games? ...
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
There's a lot of truth in what you just said, and I for one agree with this 100%. The issue is this is the 6th game of the season and I haven't been impressed with our play in any of the games, so if the effort we have seen in the first 5 games continues after the bye, then I think I am absolutely correct![]()
Nothing about that is a fallacy |
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
Originally Posted by spkb25
Fallacy may be a bit strong, but I can't help but think if our defense had just made one key stop in each game this season we'd be 5-1.![]()
2 of our 3 losses could have easily, and I mean VERY easily gone the other way and we'd be 5-1 discussing how our defense has dodged some bullets but stepped up when needed. I don't think we're as bad a team as our record indicates, but we're playing as bad as our record indicates. If that makes sense. |
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
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we'd be 4-1, but would you feel good about it? I wouldn't
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
Originally Posted by Danno
Exactly. Our defense allowed game winning/OT forcing drives in both of the ATL/CLE games. ![]()
We don't even need a great defense to win. Honestly, if we could just have a mediocre/average defense, the offense would take care of the rest. |
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
Had a dream Joe Morgan caught two TD's this week.
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
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Question: When is the last Saints game that you've seen where that formula has actually been used? My memory is a bit hazy...![]()
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
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I think you missed my point. I'm not arguing one way or the other if running the football is the path to success. I too believe that the Saints would benefit from both running the ball more and more effectively.![]()
My point is you have an offensive brain trust in Payton, Carmichael, and Brees that's been in place for 8 seasons now. The offense is etched in granite. It's an offense that from 2006 on has piloted the team to winning, elite, and championship level football. My point is that wishing for a fundamental change isn't going to make it happen. At this point it would literally take flushing out the entire organization to effect such a fundamental change. Currently what the Saints do well is run the ball effectively. They are #2 in the NFL at 5.2 YPA. Also we always have this discussion as if the Saints do not run the ball at all. Or that each and every pass isn't a screen or a long handoff. It isn't really like the Cowboys are having 55 rushes per game and the Saints have 3. The actual numbers up until now is 33 attempts vs. 25 attempts. Note the 33 APG is tops in the NFL So will 8 more rushes per game really make the Saints offense the absolute unbeatable juggernaut that will only end at the Lombardi Trophy? As for QB and WR, history is changing. With the lopsided tilt of the rules to the offense in today's NFL "in the name of player safety" we will soon have 6000 yard passers, 25 TDs per year for receiver/TE and 60 TD/yr QBs. In the next 10 years, running the football on offense will simply be a distraction from the passing game. That's why there is so much emphasis in QBs and WR. My bet is that there will never be another Trent Dilfer winning the SB. Not in today's climate. Now I will admit that sometimes Brees and Payton get a bit pass happy. 57 pass attempts in any game is way way too much. But the perceived lack of rushing really isn't the problem for the offense. The real problems are failure to convert red zone opportunities into TDs and turnovers. Fix those two, along with the defense getting a stop or turnover a bit more often, and you'll see more of the rushing attack because the team will be executing that rushing attack in the 8 minute drill in the 4th quarter of games. BTW, I see what you did. You didn't answer my question... SFIAH |
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
I think its mush simpler than that.![]()
We have an A offense and a D defense. Its not too difficult to see which side of the ball needs the most attention. |
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