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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno I think its mush simpler than that. We have an A offense and a D defense. I disagree. We have a B- offense and a D defense. Its not too difficult to see which side of ...

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Old 10-18-2014, 02:58 PM   #1
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
I think its mush simpler than that.

We have an A offense and a D defense.
I disagree. We have a B- offense and a D defense.
Its not too difficult to see which side of the ball needs the most attention.
Both sides needs attention. An 'A' offense scores when the red zone and doesn't give the ball away. I really want the Saints to have an 'A' offense for the rest of the season.

A 'B' defense gets off the field on third down, doesn't give up the big play, gets a turnover every once in a while, like once a game, contains the run, and pressures the QB. At this point I'd take a 'B-' or a C defense that does many of these items on a consistent basis.

An 'A' offense wins games, not lose them. The offense was just as much to blame in the Atlanta and Cleveland losses as the defense.

I really hope not to see those kinds of mistakes going down the stretch.

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Old 10-18-2014, 03:47 PM   #2
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL View Post
I disagree. We have a B- offense and a D defense.


Both sides needs attention. An 'A' offense scores when the red zone and doesn't give the ball away. I really want the Saints to have an 'A' offense for the rest of the season.

A 'B' defense gets off the field on third down, doesn't give up the big play, gets a turnover every once in a while, like once a game, contains the run, and pressures the QB. At this point I'd take a 'B-' or a C defense that does many of these items on a consistent basis.

An 'A' offense wins games, not lose them. The offense was just as much to blame in the Atlanta and Cleveland losses as the defense.

I really hope not to see those kinds of mistakes going down the stretch.

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Just my opinion, but you are out of your freaking mind if you think the offense was just as much to blame as our defense for those 2 losses, especially the Atlanta loss where our defense gave up nearly 600 yards.
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Old 10-18-2014, 02:36 PM   #3
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense

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but back to the topic at hand. name a team historically that was dominant on offense that won a sb and didnt have a running game? even the year the saints won the sb we had a very good run game whether it was coming from screens or draws to r bush.
2010 Green Bay Packers. Running game in the 20s in every category that season. Middle of the pack in the playoffs.

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Old 10-18-2014, 06:13 PM   #4
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Re: New Orleans Saints face formidable challenge against Lions defense

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx View Post
ha ha this is too funny! watch a saints game really? read my bio. not only am i a fan of the saints but i'm a fan of football. let me educate you (and others) about the concept of football. the teams that were dominant on offense always has and always will be the team that had or (in present day) has premier running back(s). now there is a combination of things such as having a decent qb, decent wr's, coaches etc etc. every position is important but how most historical teams that won superbowls had a good running back and or fullback. fullbacks, yeah some of you all dont even know what a fullback is. you think its a te coming off the line going into the back filed to help block. lol. but back to the topic at hand. name a team historically that was dominant on offense that won a sb and didnt have a running game? even the year the saints won the sb we had a very good run game whether it was coming from screens or draws to r bush. now lets go to modern day times, the dallas cowgirls is 5-1 not because of t nomo but because of d murray. now dont go give me this notion that every team is built differently and every team does this or does that.. every team in the nfl now want this premier qb. every team. name one that so much emphasis isnt placed on qb's and wr's? go ahead i'm waiting.............. thought so none! every sports analyst highlights the qb and wr position. meanwhile the rb position is down played and damn near a thing of the past. i garauntee if the saints start running the ball EFFECTIVELY, because that is the key is how EFFECTIVELY you can run the ball they will win games. if the dallas cowgirls continue to run like they're doing, they're going to the super bowl and i'll put a bet on that and i dont gamble!
Super Bowl Winners
yards/game rank.

2013 - Seahawks - 4th
2012 - Ravens - 11th
2011 - Giants - 32nd
2010 - Packers - 24th
2009 - Saints - 6th
2008 - Steelers - 23rd
2007 - Giants - 4th
2006 - Colts - 18th
2005 - Steelers - 5th
2004 - Patriots - 7th
2003 - Patriots - 27th
2002 - Buccaneers - 27th
2001 - Patriots - 13th
2000 - Ravens - 5th

In this century the top rushing team in the NFL hasn't won the Superbowl. No team in the top 3 in rushing has won.
The worst rushing team in the league has won the Super Bowl.
Since 2000, there have been 6 Super Bowl winners that have had top 10 rushing games and there have been 5 Super Bowl winners that have been in the bottom 10 in rushing.
The average rank of the Super Bowl winning teams rushing game is 15th.

Since the turn of the century, there doesn't seem to be a correlation between rushing yards per game and winning the Super Bowl.

It's always good to have a great rushing game, in the same way it's good to have great passing game, great special teams or great defense, but it's just part of a bigger picture. Every team is built differently.
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