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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; It was just a matter of time for the Lions to figure out our D, it took longer in the game for them than I thought. We can't close this season for some reason. Although for some crazy way we ...

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Old 10-19-2014, 04:35 PM   #1
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It was just a matter of time for the Lions to figure out our D, it took longer in the game for them than I thought. We can't close this season for some reason. Although for some crazy way we could win the division, even if it was a losing record I'll take it, we need all the help we can get.
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:06 PM   #2
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This means I'm totally disgusted with this season. It is unfortunate that I am coming from Denver to attend the Packers game. I'm also bringing a paper bag. In the last 3 years we have had only one winning season. I'm aware one of those years is without Coach. However we are heading in the wrong direction at a rapid pace. What is so wrong with us?
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This means I'm totally disgusted with this season. It is unfortunate that I am coming from Denver to attend the Packers game. I'm also bringing a paper bag. In the last 3 years we have had only one winning season. I'm aware one of those years is without Coach. However we are heading in the wrong direction at a rapid pace. What is so wrong with us?
If this season continues on track, we actually did better without Sean Payton than we have this season with him.
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Originally Posted by NOLA54 View Post
This means I'm totally disgusted with this season. It is unfortunate that I am coming from Denver to attend the Packers game. I'm also bringing a paper bag. In the last 3 years we have had only one winning season. I'm aware one of those years is without Coach. However we are heading in the wrong direction at a rapid pace. What is so wrong with us?
Which 3 years?

2010 11-5
2011 13-3
2012 7-9
2013 11-5
2014 2-4

You cannot count 2014 as a losing season yet because the team has not lost 9 games yet.

As for what's wrong it's pretty obvious. The offense and defense makes too many mistakes in each game. Missed tackles, turnovers, missed assignments.

I was hoping that these could be fixed in the bye week. So much for that...

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Old 10-19-2014, 05:13 PM   #5
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Paper bag? lol

And the madness begins.
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:20 PM   #6
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I watched the last 5 minutes in complete disbelief... Funny because I asked for the check at applebees right before White and the secondary gave up the big play/touchdown to Tate. The drive before was frustrating at 20-10 on that drive as Brees had the delay of game called against him, and then on third down, he seemed to be complaining about something on the lineup of scrimmage and threw a pass straight into the ground. We settled for the field goal yet I thought we should have produced an extra first down to run more of the clock. Fast forward to the int... yet again, poor pass protection leads to Brees throwing another interception. It all goes hand-in-hand. Hell, eat the yardage and just take the sack. I guess I'm still myth-ed and scratching my head after this one.

I hate to say it, but I'll take a different approach on Brees and this situation. Every now and then you can see the window closing. Forget last season, and how close we were at the end of the regular season. Forget the off-season which I think every Saint fan felt as if we were ready to march into the post season. But watching this team makes me wonder where is that killer instinct? The swagger that I think we are all used to seeing. Brees is still a highly effective quarter back in the league. However, he is making the type of mistakes that an "elite" qb just can't make. Part of it is his lack of a pre-season... ineffective pass protection... and to be honest a receiving core that is still young and at times ineffective in creating separation. Watching him throw the deep to intermediate ball today I thought he looked good. So I don't think it has anything to do with arm strength. I think the bottom line is they are now feeling what good teams go through when they are up against the cap.

Thanks for letting me ramble. Still in disbelief...
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Receivers are not getting open, they aren't making the difficult catches. Brees is making mental errors, defense is good for most of the game and then they take a nap, the team is not hungry anymore, some key players got the big bucks and the desire is not there anymore.

Still way better than the 30 early years I watched when a victory over the Falcons made the season. Expectations were way HIGH so the fall is a long drop.
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Receivers are not getting open, they aren't making the difficult catches. Brees is making mental errors, defense is good for most of the game and then they take a nap, the team is not hungry anymore, some key players got the big bucks and the desire is not there anymore.

Still way better than the 30 early years I watched when a victory over the Falcons made the season. Expectations were way HIGH so the fall is a long drop.
Brees threw for 350yds and had TWO 100+yd receivers yesterday. I wouldn't pin this on receivers.

Defense broke down late.
O line broke down late.
Brees broke down late.
Coaches broke down late.

ANOTHER late loss by the entire team.
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I think people need to understand Brees limitations as a savior are over. His timing has been slowy off sense 2011. Brees is still a great QB and can carry the team, but he needs to see this. He lost 2 games this season. Brees needs to get hes not elite anymore and manage the game. Then we could sournd him with a good ol and wr, but hes been in decline sense 2011. Maybe its being a dad and more important things, but weve all seen it.
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I think people need to understand Brees limitations as a savior are over. His timing has been slowy off sense 2011. Brees is still a great QB and can carry the team, but he needs to see this. He lost 2 games this season. Brees needs to get hes not elite anymore and manage the game. Then we could sournd him with a good ol and wr, but hes been in decline sense 2011. Maybe its being a dad and more important things, but weve all seen it.
Try telling a guy that has built his whole career on proving people wrong, to just accept he's not elite anymore

Whilst we can all see Brees is not the player he used to be, the defense is doing their best to play worse than him.
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