dizzle88

If this season continues on track, we actually did better without Sean Payton than we have this season with him.

brees84

Paper bag? lol

And the madness begins.

nycsaintfan

I watched the last 5 minutes in complete disbelief... Funny because I asked for the check at applebees right before White and the secondary gave up the big play/touchdown to Tate. The drive before was frustrating at 20-10 on that drive as Brees had the delay of game called against him, and then on third down, he seemed to be complaining about something on the lineup of scrimmage and threw a pass straight into the ground. We settled for the field goal yet I thought we should have produced an extra first down to run more of the clock. Fast forward to the int... yet again, poor pass protection leads to Brees throwing another interception. It all goes hand-in-hand. Hell, eat the yardage and just take the sack. I guess I'm still myth-ed and scratching my head after this one.

I hate to say it, but I'll take a different approach on Brees and this situation. Every now and then you can see the window closing. Forget last season, and how close we were at the end of the regular season. Forget the off-season which I think every Saint fan felt as if we were ready to march into the post season. But watching this team makes me wonder where is that killer instinct? The swagger that I think we are all used to seeing. Brees is still a highly effective quarter back in the league. However, he is making the type of mistakes that an "elite" qb just can't make. Part of it is his lack of a pre-season... ineffective pass protection... and to be honest a receiving core that is still young and at times ineffective in creating separation. Watching him throw the deep to intermediate ball today I thought he looked good. So I don't think it has anything to do with arm strength. I think the bottom line is they are now feeling what good teams go through when they are up against the cap.

Thanks for letting me ramble. Still in disbelief...

pherein

I think people need to understand Brees limitations as a savior are over. His timing has been slowy off sense 2011. Brees is still a great QB and can carry the team, but he needs to see this. He lost 2 games this season. Brees needs to get hes not elite anymore and manage the game. Then we could sournd him with a good ol and wr, but hes been in decline sense 2011. Maybe its being a dad and more important things, but weve all seen it.

dizzle88

Try telling a guy that has built his whole career on proving people wrong, to just accept he's not elite anymore

Whilst we can all see Brees is not the player he used to be, the defense is doing their best to play worse than him.

Barry from MS

It means we need to win a WHOLE bunch of games to climb out of this 2-4 hole.

It means we need a rookie(s) to step up and make this team better. I honestly don't recall the last pass over 20 yards intended for Cooks. Isn't this dude one of the fastest in the NFL? Did he all of a sudden lose his speed? Get his butt down the field.

Couldn't Sunseri offer a spark in the secondary? He is a smart, physical, sure-tackling, fast play-maker...I like smart and sure-tackling. Our secondary is too dumb and too lost more than it needs to be (see 73 yard Taterhead Tate TD w/less than 4 minutes in the game).

We can't buy a pass rush to close out a game, or get to the QB with just 4 without blitzing. Get Powell in there, and tell him to get to the QB.

We need a spark. Get Cooks vertical, get Sunseri back there to make this dumb secondary smarter, and get Powell in there to get to the freakin QB. Something.

Ideas that could work, but could also blow up in our face. But isn't a 2-4 record replicate a Wile E. Coyote series of events? Tired of seeing this team s--t the bed with underachieving morons.

"I'd far rather be happy than right any day" ~ Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
"Honor: if you need it defined, you don't have it" ~ Ron Swanson

SmashMouth

The team is what it is. It's certainly not what we all wanted and expected it to be. Now that we have proper expectations after a 2-4 start, we can temper our enthusiasm to pre-SP years, kinda like Slo-Mo has been doing with the Lions.

Barry from MS

So, we all should just "Curb Our Enthusiasm"?

Hard to getting happy, happy being 2-4. It does kinda remind me of Saints years of the long, long ago.

neugey

The two teams we beat have 3 wins betweens them, and they were both home games. And is it was, we nearly blew the Bucs game and we got luck and help from the refs in the Vikings game.

We are actually worse than our 2-4 record. If the NFL published BCS computer rankings it would be apparent.

saintsfan1976

We owned the top defense for most of the game. Two breakdowns cost us the game.

1-1 in the worst division in football. The season is far from over