pherein

going to be hard dizzle, but the tape does not lie. I want Brees as our QB, but he has to get hes not as good as he was 2006-2010, and his timing is off when throwing to rw's. Hes costing games and becoming a liability by trying to think hes still elite. He will cost more games until he decides to grow up and know hes not as good as he was in those years. How many games does the Defence have to deal with Brees blowing it trying to be what he was? Brees needs to just grow up and well be fine. Hes a great QB.

Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009.
Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

Barry from MS

It means we need to win a WHOLE bunch of games to climb out of this 2-4 hole.

It means we need a rookie(s) to step up and make this team better. I honestly don't recall the last pass over 20 yards intended for Cooks. Isn't this dude one of the fastest in the NFL? Did he all of a sudden lose his speed? Get his butt down the field.

Couldn't Sunseri offer a spark in the secondary? He is a smart, physical, sure-tackling, fast play-maker...I like smart and sure-tackling. Our secondary is too dumb and too lost more than it needs to be (see 73 yard Taterhead Tate TD w/less than 4 minutes in the game).

We can't buy a pass rush to close out a game, or get to the QB with just 4 without blitzing. Get Powell in there, and tell him to get to the QB.

We need a spark. Get Cooks vertical, get Sunseri back there to make this dumb secondary smarter, and get Powell in there to get to the freakin QB. Something.

Ideas that could work, but could also blow up in our face. But isn't a 2-4 record replicate a Wile E. Coyote series of events? Tired of seeing this team s--t the bed with underachieving morons.

"I'd far rather be happy than right any day" ~ Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
"Honor: if you need it defined, you don't have it" ~ Ron Swanson

SaintFanInATLHELL

Actually it doesn't. At this point there's only one available playoff slot (PLAYOFFS??!!, yes playoffs...) available to the Saints, the #4 seed. The top teams in the other three divisions are likely not to be caught.

The NFC South flat sucks this season. Every team is below .500 and the Saints are 1 game out of first place in the division. Literally by next Friday they can be leading the division at 4-4.

So nothing should change about the objective: win the next game.

What needs to change is the method.
I don't see this as the rookies fault. Every loss this team has is because of mistakes, Interceptions, fumbles, blown assignments, missed tackles, and penalties. And it's not the rookies making these mistakes.

Now this I agree with. Even an average NFL QB can be sucessful when they have all the time in the world to throw the ball.
A spark isn't going to cover up the mistakes. 3 of the 4 losses, and honestly 1 of the 2 wins were mistake filled games.

SFIAH

Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO

Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

Barry from MS

No, no, no, no...that's not what I meant. My bad.

What I feebly was trying to say was that the coaches should try and light a spark by putting a rookie(s) into a position to succeed. Getting Cooks down field running 10-30 yard routes instead of those line-of-scrimmage plays that are getting blown up more times than not or some dinky 5-10 yard route.

Or getting Sunseri into the secondary mix...great coverage by him in the end zone, by the way. Very encouraged by this.

But, no, I am definitely not pinning any blame on our rookies. My apologies with my not grasping the English language like I should. BFM

"I'd far rather be happy than right any day" ~ Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
"Honor: if you need it defined, you don't have it" ~ Ron Swanson

Utah_Saint

I was just discussing this with a buddy yesterday. Why haven't they sent Cooks on more deep routes where he can get up a head of steam and take advantage of his speed?

SmashMouth

The team is what it is. It's certainly not what we all wanted and expected it to be. Now that we have proper expectations after a 2-4 start, we can temper our enthusiasm to pre-SP years, kinda like Slo-Mo has been doing with the Lions.

SloMotion

I know you guys don't want to hear from me, and it's too bad, because I honestly feel I could give you some perspective, as pointed out by Smash (had to fix your post at the end there, though, ), just as you guys have given me a place to discuss "winning" football the past few seasons. I honestly enjoy hanging around the board and would have preferred the Lions lost because that's "how we do" on Sundays & it means a heckuva' lot more to you than it did to me.

It's a game, fellas. Let me tell you "What the Lions win means". It means I woke up in the same bed October 20th as I did on October 19th. It means the Lions now have a better chance to go 7-9 (or even 8-8), finish second/third in their Division and miss the playoffs .... again. It means my life doesn't change a single iota, and probably neither does yours.

It's a heartbreaking way to lose a game and I strongly empathize with each and every one of you ... strongly. Losing a game in the final minutes has been the Lions m.o. since about ... oh, 1957 or so ... a few years before I was even born and the Saints were even in the league. I'm just as surprised as the next guy that this one wound up the way it did, because it certainly isn't characteristic of either the Saints or the Lions, IMO.

I'm reading some of these threads. Do you guys really believe there is a conspiracy by the NFL and the refs to elevate the Lions status in the league and get them into the playoffs? The Lions? Detroit? Really? The day I ever see anyone outside the City of Detroit step up and actually do/say something for the City of Detroit other than kicking 'em when they're down, will be the day I die, eh? Ridiculous.

IDK. Count your blessings, I guess. I'd kill for a team that has been to the playoffs 4-outta'-5, a SuperBowl, a HOF QB, played in a warm-weather climate, et ... just sayin' ... it's a loss, it'll happen in the NFL now & again. If there's any team in the NFL that has shown that it can handle adversity, it's the Saints. My money says the Saints still make the postseason & the Lions won't, so whatever.

This stuff happens in the NFL all over, all the time. It's been going on with the Lions for as long as I can remember. At least with the Saints, the organization was able to elevate itself, for the fans, above all that and become one of the elite teams. So you're encountering a few bumps in the road, now all of a sudden the Saints, Drew Brees, et ... don't have the cajones to right the ship? They do, and I guess that's what I'm trying to tell you guys, if the roles were reversed and the Lions had lost that game, it would have been their swan-song for the season. The Saints will get this turned around. They've done it before.

Perspective. You take the good with the bad. If it doesn't kill you, it only makes you stronger. We live to fight another day. It's always darkest before the dawn. It's just a game.

Continue to march. I'll be rooting for ya', .

Barry from MS

So, we all should just "Curb Our Enthusiasm"?

Hard to getting happy, happy being 2-4. It does kinda remind me of Saints years of the long, long ago.

neugey

The two teams we beat have 3 wins betweens them, and they were both home games. And is it was, we nearly blew the Bucs game and we got luck and help from the refs in the Vikings game.

We are actually worse than our 2-4 record. If the NFL published BCS computer rankings it would be apparent.

saintsfan1976

We owned the top defense for most of the game. Two breakdowns cost us the game.

1-1 in the worst division in football. The season is far from over