We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig

saintsfan1976 · 10-20-2014, 10:03 AM

ATL, CLE, DET - we literally folded at the end.

DAL - never got off the bus.

MIN and TB, both at home - did enough to win, TB; hard fought, full of mistakes.

Nearing the midpoint of our season, it's becoming clear that something is missing this year. Is it heart, is is killer instinct? Regardless, this disappointing season has been a TOTAL TEAM EFFORT.

BUT - all is not lost. Yet....

1-1 in the division. 6 of our next 10 at home.

Saint_LB · 10-20-2014, 10:17 AM

Oh...good, I don't have to start a thread, it was already started. I came to this board to start a thread kinda like this one.

This is about the 3rd or 4th time that we have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and I can't help but thinking that with perhaps a bit more luck, coaching, creativity, not throwing picks in your own territory with only a few minutes left while leading...I don't know what it is, but I agree with the OP. Something is missing.

saintsfan1976 · 10-20-2014, 10:20 AM

I think Hagan said it best - We'll keep shooting ourselves in the foot until there's nothing left to shoot. Even then, we can limp, roll or drag our butts into a playoff game!

Danno · 10-20-2014, 10:23 AM

We have totally lost any and all killer instinct.

SaintsBro · 10-20-2014, 10:42 AM

Look at last year, look at the big picture... New England, we collapsed and lost it. Carolina in Carolina, we collapsed at the very end, and lost it. Atlanta, Tampa Bay, and the Eagles in the playoffs, all three times we very nearly collapsed and lost it, but squeaked out a win.

Heck, go all the way back to San Francisco in the playoffs in 2011, what happened there....were in the lead with nine seconds left

This has become a regular pattern with this team, and it's not a temporary slump.

Choupique · 10-20-2014, 11:05 AM

danno thinks they're like him, which is not correct.

any team can win on any given sunday.

the worst team could beat the best team.

this is not a new phenomenon.

all these statistics and anomalies don't amount to diddley squat.

it is a tough league, with a lot of talent. it is very hard to win ANY game.

Danno · 10-20-2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

our offense needs to get their act together! earlier this season everyone was so quick to blame the defense. throughout this time i said hey our defense isnt as bad as it seems that our offense have too many 3 and outs during the course of the game, leaving our defense on the field far too long. now what you all have to say? now the very thing i was telling you all back in week 2 and 3 you all see it more and more. offensively too many 3 and outs, pick 6's, int's (your boy drew brees seems to throw in every game, now where's the stat on that dunno?), the inabiltiy to run the ball effectively and the list goes on and on. until they get things worked out on offense we will continue to lose close games.

No, you said the offense was just as bad as the defense in the 1st two games.
You were wrong then and now you're trying to change your story.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-20-2014, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, you said the offense was just as bad as the defense in the 1st two games.
You were wrong then and now you're trying to change your story.

That may have been me, yes? I've put a lot of blame on the offense. May have been a bit much to call it equal.

But I stand by the fact that offensive mistakes in every game except for Minnesota contributed to each of the losses.

SFIAH

saintsfan1976 · 10-20-2014, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Choupique

danno thinks they're like him, which is not correct.

any team can win on any given sunday.

the worst team could beat the best team.

this is not a new phenomenon.

all these statistics and anomalies don't amount to diddley squat.

it is a tough league, with a lot of talent. it is very hard to win ANY game.

Uhhh especially when you make more mistakes than the other team week in and week out.

What is true however is that any member can come here and post any crappy opinion they want. So....you're still around.

Barry from MS · 10-20-2014, 01:46 PM

ArtiChokes, man, ArtiChokes. Harvesting them left-and right. This team is a bunch of choke artists right now. It better'd get fixed quick or this new generation of Saints fans will feel the wrath of what us old timers have went through, though the 2011 and 2010 playoffs were pretty mind-blowing in the realms of choking all by themselves.

Offense, defense, special teams, coaching, personnel, doesn't matter...the New Orleans Saints are losing. Losing as a team. They win as one, and they lose as one. Not Corey White loses the game. Not Drew Brees wins the game. Not Hokie Gajan wins/loses the game (with...his...analysis?...).

10-20-2014, 10:03 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig ATL, CLE, DET - we literally folded at the end. DAL - never got off the bus. MIN and TB, both at home - did enough to win, TB; hard fought, full of mistakes. Nearing the midpoint of our season, it's becoming clear that something is missing this year. Is it heart, is is killer instinct? Regardless, this disappointing season has been a TOTAL TEAM EFFORT. BUT - all is not lost. Yet.... 1-1 in the division. 6 of our next 10 at home. SaintFanInATLHELL and Audiotom like this.

10-20-2014, 10:17 AM	#2
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig Oh...good, I don't have to start a thread, it was already started. I came to this board to start a thread kinda like this one. This is about the 3rd or 4th time that we have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and I can't help but thinking that with perhaps a bit more luck, coaching, creativity, not throwing picks in your own territory with only a few minutes left while leading...I don't know what it is, but I agree with the OP. Something is missing.
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10-20-2014, 10:20 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig I think Hagan said it best - We'll keep shooting ourselves in the foot until there's nothing left to shoot. Even then, we can limp, roll or drag our butts into a playoff game!

10-20-2014, 10:23 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig We have totally lost any and all killer instinct. K Major and Audiotom like this.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig Look at last year, look at the big picture... New England, we collapsed and lost it. Carolina in Carolina, we collapsed at the very end, and lost it. Atlanta, Tampa Bay, and the Eagles in the playoffs, all three times we very nearly collapsed and lost it, but squeaked out a win. Heck, go all the way back to San Francisco in the playoffs in 2011, what happened there....were in the lead with nine seconds left This has become a regular pattern with this team, and it's not a temporary slump. dam1953 and Audiotom like this.

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10-20-2014, 11:22 AM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig Originally Posted by teddybarexxx our offense needs to get their act together! earlier this season everyone was so quick to blame the defense. throughout this time i said hey our defense isnt as bad as it seems that our offense have too many 3 and outs during the course of the game, leaving our defense on the field far too long. now what you all have to say? now the very thing i was telling you all back in week 2 and 3 you all see it more and more. offensively too many 3 and outs, pick 6's, int's (your boy drew brees seems to throw in every game, now where's the stat on that dunno?), the inabiltiy to run the ball effectively and the list goes on and on. until they get things worked out on offense we will continue to lose close games. No, you said the offense was just as bad as the defense in the 1st two games. You were wrong then and now you're trying to change your story.

10-20-2014, 12:52 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig Originally Posted by Danno No, you said the offense was just as bad as the defense in the 1st two games. You were wrong then and now you're trying to change your story. That may have been me, yes? I've put a lot of blame on the offense. May have been a bit much to call it equal. But I stand by the fact that offensive mistakes in every game except for Minnesota contributed to each of the losses. SFIAH

10-20-2014, 01:41 PM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig Originally Posted by Choupique danno thinks they're like him, which is not correct. any team can win on any given sunday. the worst team could beat the best team. this is not a new phenomenon. all these statistics and anomalies don't amount to diddley squat. it is a tough league, with a lot of talent. it is very hard to win ANY game. Uhhh especially when you make more mistakes than the other team week in and week out. What is true however is that any member can come here and post any crappy opinion they want. So....you're still around.

10-20-2014, 01:46 PM	#10
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: We are 2-3 in games when leading with FOUR minutes remainig ArtiChokes, man, ArtiChokes. Harvesting them left-and right. This team is a bunch of choke artists right now. It better'd get fixed quick or this new generation of Saints fans will feel the wrath of what us old timers have went through, though the 2011 and 2010 playoffs were pretty mind-blowing in the realms of choking all by themselves. Offense, defense, special teams, coaching, personnel, doesn't matter...the New Orleans Saints are losing. Losing as a team. They win as one, and they lose as one. Not Corey White loses the game. Not Drew Brees wins the game. Not Hokie Gajan wins/loses the game (with...his...analysis?...).
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