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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I never understood the Saints fans who constantly want to jump up every twenty minutes and declare "that's it, the window is closed." As if the whole world isn't waiting for it to happen? The folks who are always going ...

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Old 11-11-2014, 11:04 AM   #11
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Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts

I never understood the Saints fans who constantly want to jump up every twenty minutes and declare

"that's it, the window is closed."




As if the whole world isn't waiting for it to happen?

The folks who are always going on about the window closing -- I have to ask, what else do you people do the rest of the time?

Do you sit around in hospitals, and wait for them to stop pounding on the chest, and declare the patient is dead, so you can jump in with your watch and declare the time of death? Do you stay up all night waiting for the last election results, so you can run past the winner's podium and go declare who is the loser? Do you sit around at airports and wait for people who missed their planes, so you can run up to them and taunt them about it?

What kind of person lives day to day, waiting for "the window to close" so they can jump up and be the first one to announce it?

I just don't understand the mentality of it. I don't understand the psychology of it.

The window is NOT closed, and when the day eventually comes and it finally IS closed, trust me, EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER WILL KNOW IT. There will come a Sunday, something will happen, it will be universal, and we will know it and it will be so intuitively obvious to every living soul, that WE WON'T NEED ANYONE TO TELL US.

So the very fact that someone actually wants to DEBATE that the window is closed, shows me that it clearly isn't.

I've noticed over the years that some Saints fans act like winning is all a crazy dream, and they subconsciously can't wait to wake up from it and go back to losing and being miserable again. Well, that's not reality, and that's not going to happen for a while yet. There are A LOT of things still left to fall apart, implode or turn sour, before the window actually closes.

WE ARE FIRST IN THE DIVISION. There is plenty of rebuilding and reloading already going on, and plenty more that needs to happen still.

After winning 19 or twenty-something games in a row (not counting 2012), we were actually waaaay overdue for a home loss under Sean Payton. Not the end of the world.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:13 PM   #12
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Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts

Originally Posted by Schmohams View Post
I think the Saints offense could be dominating in all facets of attack if Brees didn't turn it over so much.
I think the offense could be dominating if the defense was playing halfway decent and Brees didn't feel like he had to put the whole team on his back... Anyone with an open mind can see that he starts taking big chances when he starts feeling the pressure from a struggling defense
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:20 PM   #13
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We went all-in to win now. Where's the rebuilding money going to come from?
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:27 PM   #14
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In my opinion the Linebacker position is our Achilles Heel along with a true leader on Defense that hold players accountable. I don't see rebuilding didn't we just trade off a bunch of old veterans.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:37 PM   #15
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Ummm No. I will not face any facts except the one that states we, the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS, are in 1ST PLACE in the NFC SOUTH. That's the only one that matters. All other facts are useless.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:39 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Not the contract crap again. If you compare Brees' contract to those around the league and those about to come about in the next couple of years for FAR lessor QB's you would see that the Saints got a good deal out of it. By 2016 the salary cap is going to be more than $30 million higher than it was when Brees got his deal. His salary is counting LESS percentage-wise against the cap and that is even before the very likely restructuring which will take place next off-season. Blaming Brees' pay is a totally misguided reaction to simple bad luck and frustration as a fan.

Personally, I feel very fortunate that the Saints are still in the position they are in. The division is theirs to win now and anything can happen in the playoffs.
Blah blah blah. Somehow I knew you would come out of the woodwork when I posted this. I don't care how it compares to other contracts. That wasn't my point at all. All I know is there are those QBs (& other highly sought out players) that have a much more humble approach. When he went to Denver, didn't Manning (or maybe it was Brady) mention he wasn't as concerned w his contract ($$) as he was with keeping the right people around him? I am not a Brees hater, and certainly not one of the ones saying he's in decline. I just know it takes more than one person and we have lost key players and leaders in our locker room because of several massive contracts. And you can't tell me that doesn't have something to do with our issues.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:39 PM   #17
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We need to get younger on the o-line and draft first or second round prospects not six round to undrafted players and pray they pan out. Same for a good lb. Weed Evans, Strief, and Grubbs out and that will be a ton a cap money back in the hat.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:41 PM   #18
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Dude. This is dumb. If we make the playoffs we have a shot. This team isn't THAT bad. It's certainly not worse than either one of those Giants teams that won Super Bowls the last few years. Those teams were hot garbage, snuck into the playoffs in a bad division and won the whole stupid thing. If they can do it the Saints surely can.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:54 PM   #19
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Nope, we're not BAD. The rest of the NFC South is bad. I'm sure we're more feared than any other NFCS team. But, we're certainly not very good either. Not at this point anyway.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:19 PM   #20
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Our offense is old and any window for another super bowl win is all about shut now.

I guess it is time to accept the fact and get ready to start rebuilding ASAP.

I hope this angers all saint fans!

Lambast away I can handle it.
My first question to that is:
Do we sign Brees to another major money contract or trade him for draft picks like the Colts did Manning?
2: What side of the ball(offense or defense) do we invest heavily in?
3: How do we get out of the crazy money contracts(Grubbs, Lofton, Graham type) and make it work in our favor.
4.Who do we keep and who do we let go?
Rebuilding is going to happen sooner or later, it has to. No bashing here, we do need to look at the future!!
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