Should heads roll?

Rsanders24 · 11-16-2014, 06:01 PM

We are horrible in all aspects of the game this year. Its no secret that since 2006 we have relied on the offense to carry this team even during the superbowl year. Now...you don't know what you are going to get from our offense. It doesn't surprise me though...we don't strike fear in even the worse defenses. We have no deep threat...our highest ypc this year is Meachem with 17. We used to put up 40 at home...

Special teams...what the hell....he has to be the worst coach ever! We have no return game at all...

Defense...get your heads out the ground!!! They can't pressure the QB...I don't know what our safeties do but it has nothing to do with making a play....i can't tell you how many times I've seen Vaccaro standing flat footed only to watch the ball fall at his feet.

We just look like an team with no identity...no drive...I don't know where we go from here but we need an overhaul from top to bottom...

spkb25 · 11-16-2014, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

We are horrible in all aspects of the game this year. Its no secret that since 2006 we have relied on the offense to carry this team even during the superbowl year. Now...you don't know what you are going to get from our offense. It doesn't surprise me though...we don't strike fear in even the worse defenses. We have no deep threat...our highest ypc this year is Meachem with 17. We used to put up 40 at home...

Special teams...what the hell....he has to be the worst coach ever! We have no return game at all...

Defense...get your heads out the ground!!! They can't pressure the QB...I don't know what our safeties do but it has nothing to do with making a play....i can't tell you how many times I've seen Vaccaro standing flat footed only to watch the ball fall at his feet.

We just look like an team with no identity...no drive...I don't know where we go from here but we need an overhaul from top to bottom...

In all fairness the lack of the deep ball has more to do with our line not providing enough time, so we dinks it and dunks it. When they played their best we took some shots down the field again.

Rsanders24 · 11-16-2014, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

In all fairness the lack of the deep ball has more to do with our line not providing enough time, so we dinks it and dunks it. When they played their best we took some shots down the field again.

That's true to a certain extent...most of these crossing routes take just as long as a seam route or a post...3 to 4 seconds. The line did a decent job today with the pass blocking but the run blocking was horrible....no push...the deep ball has been non existent except for one or two games this year

DrewDat · 11-16-2014, 06:05 PM

Games like this where the offense isn't working our Defense should step up

burningmetal · 11-16-2014, 06:59 PM

I can't say anything negative. I've been told for a long time that our coaches and front office are geniuses. So I can only conclude that there must be a brilliant plan behind all of the awfulness. Good job guys.

aldocella1 · 11-16-2014, 07:14 PM

This falls on Payton, PERIOD. The past two seasons plus this year we are 22-20. Most average pro coaches can coach a five hundred team. Most of the players on Defense are the guys that the coaches wanted, LB's and DL anyway. The only two guys on the D that weren't starters since day one are Safety and CB. Our Draft this year stunk. One impact player, ONE! All coaching and being able to evaluate talent.

Danno · 11-16-2014, 07:20 PM

We haven't had a good draft in years

halloween 65 · 11-16-2014, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We haven't had a good draft in years

That is the part that has to change.Along with some coaching changes, Vitt, Johnson, McNothing and the secondary coach. Payton has got to get some nuts and let them go before he gets fired!!

WillSaints81 · 11-16-2014, 11:10 PM

In a way its like 2005 where we were helpless.

blackangold · 11-16-2014, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

In a way its like 2005 where we were helpless.

More like 07 and 08. We had some high hopes those years but failed to deliver big time. Payton will find his scapegoat again and next year we will have a new DC as the cycle repeats itself over and over. Drafting bad players and blaming the DC for the job... but guess what, vitt and mc**** have been here the whole time and still get a pay check. ..

11-16-2014, 06:01 PM	#1
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Should heads roll? We are horrible in all aspects of the game this year. Its no secret that since 2006 we have relied on the offense to carry this team even during the superbowl year. Now...you don't know what you are going to get from our offense. It doesn't surprise me though...we don't strike fear in even the worse defenses. We have no deep threat...our highest ypc this year is Meachem with 17. We used to put up 40 at home... Special teams...what the hell....he has to be the worst coach ever! We have no return game at all... Defense...get your heads out the ground!!! They can't pressure the QB...I don't know what our safeties do but it has nothing to do with making a play....i can't tell you how many times I've seen Vaccaro standing flat footed only to watch the ball fall at his feet. We just look like an team with no identity...no drive...I don't know where we go from here but we need an overhaul from top to bottom... Audiotom likes this.

11-16-2014, 06:03 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,133	Re: Should heads roll? Originally Posted by Rsanders24 We are horrible in all aspects of the game this year. Its no secret that since 2006 we have relied on the offense to carry this team even during the superbowl year. Now...you don't know what you are going to get from our offense. It doesn't surprise me though...we don't strike fear in even the worse defenses. We have no deep threat...our highest ypc this year is Meachem with 17. We used to put up 40 at home... Special teams...what the hell....he has to be the worst coach ever! We have no return game at all... Defense...get your heads out the ground!!! They can't pressure the QB...I don't know what our safeties do but it has nothing to do with making a play....i can't tell you how many times I've seen Vaccaro standing flat footed only to watch the ball fall at his feet. We just look like an team with no identity...no drive...I don't know where we go from here but we need an overhaul from top to bottom... In all fairness the lack of the deep ball has more to do with our line not providing enough time, so we dinks it and dunks it. When they played their best we took some shots down the field again.

11-16-2014, 06:24 PM	#3
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Should heads roll? Originally Posted by spkb25 In all fairness the lack of the deep ball has more to do with our line not providing enough time, so we dinks it and dunks it. When they played their best we took some shots down the field again. That's true to a certain extent...most of these crossing routes take just as long as a seam route or a post...3 to 4 seconds. The line did a decent job today with the pass blocking but the run blocking was horrible....no push...the deep ball has been non existent except for one or two games this year spkb25 and aldocella1 like this.

11-16-2014, 06:05 PM	#4
DrewDat DOMEPATROL Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Due To Military Obligation Posts: 479	Re: Should heads roll? Games like this where the offense isn't working our Defense should step up

11-16-2014, 06:59 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Should heads roll? I can't say anything negative. I've been told for a long time that our coaches and front office are geniuses. So I can only conclude that there must be a brilliant plan behind all of the awfulness. Good job guys.

11-16-2014, 07:14 PM	#6
aldocella1 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 14	Re: Should heads roll? This falls on Payton, PERIOD. The past two seasons plus this year we are 22-20. Most average pro coaches can coach a five hundred team. Most of the players on Defense are the guys that the coaches wanted, LB's and DL anyway. The only two guys on the D that weren't starters since day one are Safety and CB. Our Draft this year stunk. One impact player, ONE! All coaching and being able to evaluate talent.
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11-16-2014, 07:20 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Should heads roll? We haven't had a good draft in years

11-16-2014, 10:14 PM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Should heads roll? Originally Posted by Danno We haven't had a good draft in years That is the part that has to change.Along with some coaching changes, Vitt, Johnson, McNothing and the secondary coach. Payton has got to get some nuts and let them go before he gets fired!!

11-16-2014, 11:10 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Should heads roll? In a way its like 2005 where we were helpless.

11-16-2014, 11:18 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Should heads roll? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 In a way its like 2005 where we were helpless. More like 07 and 08. We had some high hopes those years but failed to deliver big time. Payton will find his scapegoat again and next year we will have a new DC as the cycle repeats itself over and over. Drafting bad players and blaming the DC for the job... but guess what, vitt and mc**** have been here the whole time and still get a pay check. ..

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