2015 draft??

jeanpierre · 12-27-2014, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jankman8

Like your picks Jeanpierre.. don`t see it happening tough. Will draft at least one WR and one DB. Maybe even draft a kicker!

Jank, with respect to picking a DB we will have the following under contract going into next season - Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush, Lewis, White, Stanley Jean-Baptiste and they'll probably claim rights to Warren - so CB is a strong possiblity, but I suspect they'll go FA for that solution...

With WR, we'll have Colston, Cooks, Stills, Toon, Saunders, S Jones under contract and B Coleman is getting a debut in the season finale...

Quite frankly, when you factor the TEs and the RBs, there are only so many touches and common sense and Parcells philosophy has to set in that you've got to win the first battle, the line of scrimmage, before all these talented skill players can make plays for you...

hagan714 · 12-28-2014, 07:22 AM

I have reached a level of acceptance with the saints. if everyone stays on the coaching the coaching staff i say offense all the way. defense will never be top at anything. once Rob was figured out it was down hill for a season and half. at best i say go with his track record top 25 and be happy. lets get Drew what he needs early and often

CB is still the area i think the saints can make the biggest impact on the defense with just one pick. two man cover on the wings and let the rest of the defense worry about the middle of the field.

if the saints draft a player like Shaq Thompson i will be shocked. he would stop this silly 3 and 4 safety look.

but after that it has to be offense.

I think the the #1 goal for the saints is to trade out unless something falls into their lap. after a year like this the saints have to realize they need to add more than the usual few pieces here and there. be aggressive in round two or three for the love of god. not all your answers are found in round 1

jeanpierre · 12-29-2014, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I think the the #1 goal for the saints is to trade out unless something falls into their lap. after a year like this the saints have to realize they need to add more than the usual few pieces here and there. be aggressive in round two or three for the love of god. not all your answers are found in round 1

There's no question we need to fix several areas - all along the offensive line and the front seven on defense should be replaceable with the exception of Armstead, maybe a healthy Jenkins...

But we've got to take those high picks when they come because those are your difference makers to championships...

hagan714 · 12-29-2014, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

There's no question we need to fix several areas - all along the offensive line and the front seven on defense should be replaceable with the exception of Armstead, maybe a healthy Jenkins...

But we've got to take those high picks when they come because those are your difference makers to championships...

i know just think the state of this team is worse than i have seen in years. besides the saints never add picks in the top half of the draft. we always subtract

jeanpierre · 12-29-2014, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i know just think the state of this team is worse than i have seen in years. besides the saints never add picks in the top half of the draft. we always subtract

and that's caught up to us...

mighty12 · 12-28-2014, 11:47 AM

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^That is who I want in the first round. High motor, no quit, versatile. This is what our defense needs.

WillSaints81 · 12-29-2014, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

http://youtu.be/0di4jhpjcTQ

^That is who I want in the first round. High motor, no quit, versatile. This is what our defense needs.

What was his plays against Oregon and USC?

blackangold · 12-29-2014, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

http://youtu.be/0di4jhpjcTQ

^That is who I want in the first round. High motor, no quit, versatile. This is what our defense needs.

NO NO and NO...

He has bust written all over him. His play on defense is average at best. Most of his notable performances come from running through house sized holes as a RB and picking up fumbles.

mighty12 · 12-28-2014, 11:51 AM

BOOM!

WillSaints81 · 12-29-2014, 08:49 PM

Here's my scenario

Round 1
Plan A-Shane Ray, OLB
Plan B-Vic Beasley, OLB
Plan C-La'el Collins, OT
Plan D-Bernardrick MicKinnley, ILB

Round 2
Plan A-Erreck Flowers, OT
Plan B-Dorial Green-Beckham(if Flowers is gone), WR
Plan C-OLB available(i forgot who I named from MSU)
Plan D-OLB available

Round 3
Plan A-Ragman or Frost, ILB
Plan B-Ragman or Frost, ILB
Plan C-Ragman or Frost, ILB
Plan D-Corey Robinson, OT

Round 4
Plan A-Devin Funchess, WR
Plan B-Corey Robinson, OT
Plan C-Devin Funchess, WR
Plan D-Devin Funchess, WR

If we have to draft a RB in case Ingram leaves, hopefully Mike Davis is available in the fourth. We need to start drafting some gamecocks.

12-27-2014, 08:00 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by Jankman8 Like your picks Jeanpierre.. don`t see it happening tough. Will draft at least one WR and one DB. Maybe even draft a kicker! Jank, with respect to picking a DB we will have the following under contract going into next season - Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush, Lewis, White, Stanley Jean-Baptiste and they'll probably claim rights to Warren - so CB is a strong possiblity, but I suspect they'll go FA for that solution... With WR, we'll have Colston, Cooks, Stills, Toon, Saunders, S Jones under contract and B Coleman is getting a debut in the season finale... Quite frankly, when you factor the TEs and the RBs, there are only so many touches and common sense and Parcells philosophy has to set in that you've got to win the first battle, the line of scrimmage, before all these talented skill players can make plays for you... K Major likes this.
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12-28-2014, 07:22 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? I have reached a level of acceptance with the saints. if everyone stays on the coaching the coaching staff i say offense all the way. defense will never be top at anything. once Rob was figured out it was down hill for a season and half. at best i say go with his track record top 25 and be happy. lets get Drew what he needs early and often CB is still the area i think the saints can make the biggest impact on the defense with just one pick. two man cover on the wings and let the rest of the defense worry about the middle of the field. if the saints draft a player like Shaq Thompson i will be shocked. he would stop this silly 3 and 4 safety look. but after that it has to be offense. I think the the #1 goal for the saints is to trade out unless something falls into their lap. after a year like this the saints have to realize they need to add more than the usual few pieces here and there. be aggressive in round two or three for the love of god. not all your answers are found in round 1
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12-29-2014, 08:28 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 I think the the #1 goal for the saints is to trade out unless something falls into their lap. after a year like this the saints have to realize they need to add more than the usual few pieces here and there. be aggressive in round two or three for the love of god. not all your answers are found in round 1 There's no question we need to fix several areas - all along the offensive line and the front seven on defense should be replaceable with the exception of Armstead, maybe a healthy Jenkins... But we've got to take those high picks when they come because those are your difference makers to championships... hagan714 likes this.

12-29-2014, 03:59 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre There's no question we need to fix several areas - all along the offensive line and the front seven on defense should be replaceable with the exception of Armstead, maybe a healthy Jenkins... But we've got to take those high picks when they come because those are your difference makers to championships... i know just think the state of this team is worse than i have seen in years. besides the saints never add picks in the top half of the draft. we always subtract jeanpierre likes this.

12-29-2014, 07:35 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by hagan714 i know just think the state of this team is worse than i have seen in years. besides the saints never add picks in the top half of the draft. we always subtract and that's caught up to us...

12-29-2014, 08:34 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,273	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by mighty12 http://youtu.be/0di4jhpjcTQ ^That is who I want in the first round. High motor, no quit, versatile. This is what our defense needs. What was his plays against Oregon and USC?

12-29-2014, 08:36 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by mighty12 http://youtu.be/0di4jhpjcTQ ^That is who I want in the first round. High motor, no quit, versatile. This is what our defense needs. NO NO and NO... He has bust written all over him. His play on defense is average at best. Most of his notable performances come from running through house sized holes as a RB and picking up fumbles.

12-28-2014, 11:51 AM	#9
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2015 draft?? BOOM!
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12-29-2014, 08:49 PM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,273	Re: 2015 draft?? Here's my scenario Round 1 Plan A-Shane Ray, OLB Plan B-Vic Beasley, OLB Plan C-La'el Collins, OT Plan D-Bernardrick MicKinnley, ILB Round 2 Plan A-Erreck Flowers, OT Plan B-Dorial Green-Beckham(if Flowers is gone), WR Plan C-OLB available(i forgot who I named from MSU) Plan D-OLB available Round 3 Plan A-Ragman or Frost, ILB Plan B-Ragman or Frost, ILB Plan C-Ragman or Frost, ILB Plan D-Corey Robinson, OT Round 4 Plan A-Devin Funchess, WR Plan B-Corey Robinson, OT Plan C-Devin Funchess, WR Plan D-Devin Funchess, WR If we have to draft a RB in case Ingram leaves, hopefully Mike Davis is available in the fourth. We need to start drafting some gamecocks. hagan714 likes this.

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