2015 draft??

jeanpierre · 01-31-2015, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2.

We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor.

That's why I like Shaq Thompson in the first round...

saintsfan1976 · 01-31-2015, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I really think we could have this in Baptiste. He could easily be like Chancellor.

Who is Baptiste? Does he play for the Saints?

Originally Posted by hagan714

elite ability - but not physical enough IMO. should have stayed in school. the best way to neutralize him is to run right at him. Jr already fills that roll. god knows we do not need another one

he reminds me of a poor mans donte flowers. 4 or 5 games the talent makes you drool. the other games he is hard to see on the field, he looks like any other guy out there. i still do not see the love for Donte either

scares me is all i can say. huge roll of the dice in my book. plus i would not be surprised if he is there in the 3rd.

Maybe not a full time starter in his first season but we don't have young LB's like him.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Ronald Powell?

Meh. Haven't been impressed.

Originally Posted by hagan714

ok were is the love for drew? ROT please. the first two picks have some really good players that can be playing right out of camp or by mid season. plus there are more than a few that can slide inside to guard in a heart beat.

protect Drew in 2015 should be our battle cry

Hey, I'm all for protecting Drew. Most will agree that another 1.5 seconds gives Drew the time he needs to make our entire receiving corps pro bowlers again.

But is it ROT we need more than C or G?

saintsfan1976 · 01-31-2015, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

That's why I like Shaq Thompson in the first round...

I like his teammate from Hawaii!

Any chance the nasty DT from Washington falls to us?

jeanpierre · 01-31-2015, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2.

We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor.

Have another name from you everybit as good as Eli...

OLB Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville; 6' 4", 244 lbs; 2014: 51 tackles, 13 tackles for a loss, 6.5 sacks, three passes defeneded and a forced fumble.

jeanpierre · 01-31-2015, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I like his teammate from Hawaii!

Any chance the nasty DT from Washington falls to us?

Shelton?!? Well, there's three teams ahead that have a strong NT need including Chicago (moving to 3-4 base), Redskins (but that may allow Scherff to sneak through), and Cleveland right in front of us; the Vikes are another possibility because traditionally they like to run a 4-3 with two big interior NT behemoths...

Plus there's the possibility somebody jumps in front of us....

But it's a possibility...

I think we've got the NT we need, he just wasn't healthy this season...

brees84 · 01-31-2015, 06:27 PM

My first 3 rounds:

1. Vic Beasley
2. Denzel Perryman
3. John Miller (G)

O-line heavy draft would include Donovan Smith in 5th and Adam Shead in 6th (if he is there)

hagan714 · 02-01-2015, 02:41 AM

Shelton or Scherff falling through the cracks is possible. slim but possible. if they do and the saints do not make the pick i will be drinking heavy again this year during the draft.

La'el Collins still appeals to me. cap wise in two years with the ability to slide to guard. PJ did a good sales job on the kid.

then you got the Jr wonders
Eddie Goldman
Malcom Brown
Ereck Flowers

heck i could walk away from the draft happy with

La'el Collins - JP sold me on him
Reese Dismukes - Danno sold me on him
Cedric Ogbuehi - come on there in 3rd on IR gotta do it
Donovan Smith - solid developmental prospect as any in the draft

2015 line up
LT Terron Armstead
LG Ben Grubbs - La'el Collins
OC Reese Dismukes
RG Jahri Evans
RT Zach Strief - La'el Collins

IR Cedric Ogbuehi
OC/OG Tim Lelito and RT/LT Donovan Smith are the depth.

2016 line up
LT Terron Armstead
LG La'el Collins
OC Reese Dismukes
RG Jahri Evans
RT Cedric Ogbuehi

OC/OG Tim Lelito and RT/LT Donovan Smith are the depth.
Zach Strief becomes your player coach and mentor

can/If Litto do RG in 2016?

jeanpierre · 02-01-2015, 02:34 PM

Shelton or Scherff falling to us with Shaq on the board would be tough...

But I really believe Shaq would have more inpact because we currently or getting, little to nothing from that position and because he's versatile...

Like Shelton...Love Scherff

But the impact of a Shaq Thompson would be humongous...

We get an outside linebacker who can sack and create turnovers...it's an element we really haven't had but one or two seasons since 'them'...

hagan714 · 02-01-2015, 02:41 PM

tell ya what give me my draft in 2015 and you get the rest and all the defensive FA you can sign.

In 2016 the draft is all yours, defense that is. as well as more FA signings.

only add a piece or two in 2016 for the offense

i like Shaq Thompson. i would bounce him between OLB and SS all day long. though i am leaning to SS. cut the field in half and let him run wild. SS is where started at. then move kenny all around to do his thing. still do not see a true SS skill set in kenny game. never did

jeanpierre · 02-02-2015, 09:32 PM

I'm not so sure Kenny Vaccaro isn't a Free Safety; either way, seems that Rob may have made things way too complicated; too much if this, then that; not allowing him to just make a judgement then react which would allow him 'to play faster'...

01-31-2015, 12:33 PM	#281
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2. We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor. That's why I like Shaq Thompson in the first round... saintsfan1976 likes this.

01-31-2015, 05:22 PM	#282
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by halloween 65 I really think we could have this in Baptiste. He could easily be like Chancellor. Who is Baptiste? Does he play for the Saints? Originally Posted by hagan714 elite ability - but not physical enough IMO. should have stayed in school. the best way to neutralize him is to run right at him. Jr already fills that roll. god knows we do not need another one he reminds me of a poor mans donte flowers. 4 or 5 games the talent makes you drool. the other games he is hard to see on the field, he looks like any other guy out there. i still do not see the love for Donte either scares me is all i can say. huge roll of the dice in my book. plus i would not be surprised if he is there in the 3rd. Maybe not a full time starter in his first season but we don't have young LB's like him. Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Ronald Powell? Meh. Haven't been impressed. Originally Posted by hagan714 ok were is the love for drew? ROT please. the first two picks have some really good players that can be playing right out of camp or by mid season. plus there are more than a few that can slide inside to guard in a heart beat. protect Drew in 2015 should be our battle cry Hey, I'm all for protecting Drew. Most will agree that another 1.5 seconds gives Drew the time he needs to make our entire receiving corps pro bowlers again. But is it ROT we need more than C or G? hagan714 likes this.

01-31-2015, 05:24 PM	#283
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by jeanpierre That's why I like Shaq Thompson in the first round... I like his teammate from Hawaii! Any chance the nasty DT from Washington falls to us? hagan714 likes this.

01-31-2015, 06:13 PM	#284
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2. We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor. Have another name from you everybit as good as Eli... OLB Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville; 6' 4", 244 lbs; 2014: 51 tackles, 13 tackles for a loss, 6.5 sacks, three passes defeneded and a forced fumble.

01-31-2015, 06:20 PM	#285
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I like his teammate from Hawaii! Any chance the nasty DT from Washington falls to us? Shelton?!? Well, there's three teams ahead that have a strong NT need including Chicago (moving to 3-4 base), Redskins (but that may allow Scherff to sneak through), and Cleveland right in front of us; the Vikes are another possibility because traditionally they like to run a 4-3 with two big interior NT behemoths... Plus there's the possibility somebody jumps in front of us.... But it's a possibility... I think we've got the NT we need, he just wasn't healthy this season... hagan714 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? Shelton or Scherff falling through the cracks is possible. slim but possible. if they do and the saints do not make the pick i will be drinking heavy again this year during the draft. La'el Collins still appeals to me. cap wise in two years with the ability to slide to guard. PJ did a good sales job on the kid. then you got the Jr wonders Eddie Goldman Malcom Brown Ereck Flowers heck i could walk away from the draft happy with La'el Collins - JP sold me on him Reese Dismukes - Danno sold me on him Cedric Ogbuehi - come on there in 3rd on IR gotta do it Donovan Smith - solid developmental prospect as any in the draft 2015 line up LT Terron Armstead LG Ben Grubbs - La'el Collins OC Reese Dismukes RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief - La'el Collins IR Cedric Ogbuehi OC/OG Tim Lelito and RT/LT Donovan Smith are the depth. 2016 line up LT Terron Armstead LG La'el Collins OC Reese Dismukes RG Jahri Evans RT Cedric Ogbuehi OC/OG Tim Lelito and RT/LT Donovan Smith are the depth. Zach Strief becomes your player coach and mentor can/If Litto do RG in 2016? saintsfan1976, jeanpierre, Sarik and 1 others like this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? Shelton or Scherff falling to us with Shaq on the board would be tough... But I really believe Shaq would have more inpact because we currently or getting, little to nothing from that position and because he's versatile... Like Shelton...Love Scherff But the impact of a Shaq Thompson would be humongous... We get an outside linebacker who can sack and create turnovers...it's an element we really haven't had but one or two seasons since 'them'... hagan714 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2015 draft?? tell ya what give me my draft in 2015 and you get the rest and all the defensive FA you can sign. In 2016 the draft is all yours, defense that is. as well as more FA signings. only add a piece or two in 2016 for the offense i like Shaq Thompson. i would bounce him between OLB and SS all day long. though i am leaning to SS. cut the field in half and let him run wild. SS is where started at. then move kenny all around to do his thing. still do not see a true SS skill set in kenny game. never did
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02-02-2015, 09:32 PM	#290
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2015 draft?? I'm not so sure Kenny Vaccaro isn't a Free Safety; either way, seems that Rob may have made things way too complicated; too much if this, then that; not allowing him to just make a judgement then react which would allow him 'to play faster'...

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