Re: 2015 draft??
 

Not for me its not

Re: 2015 draft??
 

Sammie and DGB pass

Saints Big Board (based on pick 13-31)

Amari Cooper WR Alabama
Vic Beasley OLB Clemson
Brandon Scherff OG Iowa
La'el Collins OT LSU
Danny Shelton NT Washington
Trae Waynes CB Michigan State
Devante Parker WR Louisville
Kevin White WR West Virginia
Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest
Jake Fisher OT Oregon
Stephone Anthony ILB Clemson
Eddie Goldman DT | Florida State
Malcolm Brown DT Texas
Benardrick McKinney ILB Mississippi State
Bud Dupree OLB Kentucky
T.J. Clemmings OT Pittsburgh
Ronald Darby CB Florida State
Maxx Williams TE Minnesota
Arik Armstead DT Oregon
Jalen Collins CB LSU
Landon Collins SS Alabama

My greatest fear which by the way i can has a chance of happening

Winston and Mariota both fall out of the top 5. one makes it of the top ten.

i really think both are over rated and Winston leads the way bu a long shot

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Was Arik Armstead that good, productive?!?

To me, he reminds me of Reynaldo Turnbull...

Remember him?!?

Coach Mora had him up on a dias, showing him off like a prized slave or something?!? Jim couldn't keep his hands off of him...

Great physical attributes, really smart guy; but he wasn't a football player and wasn't going to win games for you...

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The only two Nose Tackle/Defensive Tackles I like in the first round, and it's with the 31st pick, would be...

First, Carl Davis, Iowa; the guy is immovable, reminds me of Jim Wilks; he doesn't have to sack anyone, he's just got to push their interior linemen into their passer, scare said passer with his 6' 5", 320 lbs frame and massive arms and hands...

Second, Eddie Goldman; I'm not nearly as high as some scouts on him, but I'm close; he's this generation's Vince Wilfork, but will he be as good as State had talent up and down their front seven?!?

Both would take our NT and/or DT positions to another level (I see Davis taking over for Hicks, protecting that outside pass rusher if not moving inside as a nose tackle on passing downs)...

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If I thought Jake Fisher could win the Left Tackle spot from Armstead, allowing the very athletic Armstead to move to Right Tackle and really power what could be an amazing run game (we still need to find out what we have at left guard), then I'd put him as a priority for the Saints in the first round...

Re: 2015 draft??
 

I think Ray, Gregory and Dupree are in that same class as Dwight Freeney, Will Smith...

They will be feast or famine guys and I prefer effective, productive CONSISTENCY...

In addition they're 4-3 guys and those teams should select from that group...

We should continue our push to a 3-4 defense and Payton has rightfully chosen, and we should make a move for Beasley with our first pick or trade back a few spots for Eli Harold; we must get a pass rusher in the first...

Or we take Louisville's Mauldin with our second round pick...

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Why would the Bears do that unless Pace didn't like Beasley...

You gotta remember that the Bears are now moving to a 3-4 base package as well, that's why they're letting so many players geaux...

If Shelton is there, Pace has to like him more than Beasley...

But that still exposes Beasley to Atlanta, who also stated they're moving to a 3-4, but their new coach is a wildcard; Thomas Dimitroff certainly doesn't have a clue to building a team, but that coach they have, Dan Quinn, coming from Seattle - that bears vigilance...

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With the Bears signing McPhee I think they would welcome an additional draft pick to help fill other holes in their transition to the 3-4.

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i see these two as the same type of players and with some time under Fishers belt we could swap Armstead with Fisher without missing a beat. but Armstead looks to have a home at LT. i expect more improvement again this year and the start of pro bowl chatter is very possible.

After last year and the glaring drop of in depth at OT when both OT went down. a player like Fisher is worth the pick. Streif is not getting any younger either.

Long term IMO it just makes sense to me.

get your RG/RT at 13 and all that left to worry about is the back up OG to step in. i stopped believing in the long shoots cutting the mustard ie Harris is the last of a long line of bs the saints have tried to sell us on. so i am not buying it. try the kid out of Hobart. the rest of the picks can defense imo except one. get the kid out of georgia tech to run Jimmies routes. almost as big but faster NOT LIKE Jimmies route was that complex.

4/5 out of the first offense gets us in the running for the division crown. 5/5 on defense probably wont

then in 2016 you really can go all out on defense is the football goods bless you in the 2015 draft offensively.

if not oh well :bng:

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Dupree is promising. at the pro level in a 34

i do not like either Ray or Gregory in a 34 set. i just see both as limited much like Jr. 43 sure i can see it better but 34? nope i just can not buy into it