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hagan714 03-27-2015 04:14 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 648074)
Eli Harold was mentioned as a potential candidate at pick #31.

Thoughts?

he is interesting an at 31. this is a pick i could see happening. upside all the way. i watched a lot of Virgina football and he has improved each and every year but i never though he would be a bottom of the first type of player. one of two possibilities here, he does have that upside or this is a weak class at OLB at this point in the draft , that like the QB, they are getting more hype do to their glorified position.

I would rather see the saints finishing the job they started up front on the OL which I have little faith in them completing. they never complete what they start. but thats just me.

I think at 31 you have other options open to you that are safer picks on both sides of the ball. this may be the spot to look at CB OT OG DT because when pick 44 comes around the picking will probably get mighty thin and your talking third tier talent pool by then. grab the best from the second teir vs the bottom of the first tier is not a bad thing to do. pats live with this way of picking players. pick a player based on what he is not on what he might be.

i am open to trading back into the top second and getting that 4th rounder back. plus something else of course in 2016 ;)

But not picking from the over glorified positions make for a boring draft.

But a boring draft may be just what this team needs

heck sell me on the kid. i am open to it

hagan714 03-27-2015 04:39 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 648070)
The 3 most intriguing teams that could swing the 2015 NFL Draft - CBSSports.com

This writer has a pretty decent bead on the Saints and seems to have taken a first-person study of what's going on with the team...

Pick No. 13 options:
Brandon Scherff, La'El Collins, Danny Shelton, Trae Waynes,DeVante Parker

If these players are gone start listing to trade option because at 13 i am not crazy about options after them. trade back get picks and increase your ability to move around in the draft in more rounds.

jeanpierre 03-27-2015 05:06 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 648074)
Eli Harold was mentioned as a potential candidate at pick #31.

Thoughts?

IF Eli Harold is still there at 31, and we didn't have Vic Beasley on board at that point, I think you gotta really pause and consider that...

After Harold, the next best fit at OLB is Zo Mauldin out of Louisville and you gotta reach and take him with the 2nd round pick...

Know some people hate this, but we ****ed the pooch winning that Tampa Game...

Lovie pretty much handed our arse to us for three quarters, and then they threw the game...

Nothing wrong with pitching a battle to win the war...

jeanpierre 03-27-2015 05:15 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 648098)
Pick No. 13 options:
Brandon Scherff, La'El Collins, Danny Shelton, Trae Waynes,DeVante Parker

If these players are gone start listing to trade option because at 13 i am not crazy about options after them. trade back get picks and increase your ability to move around in the draft in more rounds.

Scherff, maybe Shelton, are the only guys I'd want at 13, unless some improbability Beasley falls and that's not happening...

Like Shelton's game, but his playing style and longevity in the NFL don't seem conducive...

Trade up for Beasley or trade back to the 18-24 range and take Virginia's Eli Harold, Florida St's Eddie Goldman, Oregon's Jake Fisher, Wake Forest's Kevin Johnson...

lee909 03-27-2015 05:22 AM

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What Jordan Phillips and Malcom Brown?

halloween 65 03-27-2015 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 648111)
What Jordan Phillips and Malcom Brown?

Jordan Phillips would be my pick. Another late round pick to condition up is Terry Williams East Carilina 6'1 353 lbs. read up on that monster. Both are ideal fits in a 3-4. Williams could be had in the 6th and sit on the practice squad for a year. I like a NT with a low center of gravity.

hagan714 03-27-2015 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 648111)
What Jordan Phillips and Malcom Brown?

Jordan Phillipss scares me. back injury and the lack of experience head my list

Malcom Brown juries still out for me. top ten talent? or mid 20s? consistency is my biggest issue with him. were as Shelton - he is consistent but has to be part of a rotation IMO.
i am hoping cleveland takes him so we do not have to think about it. i am on the fence about the kid

halloween 65 03-27-2015 06:16 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 648117)
Jordan Phillipss scares me. back injury and the lack of experience head my list

Malcom Brown juries still out for me. top ten talent? or mid 20s? consistency is my biggest issue with him. were as Shelton - he is consistent but has to be part of a rotation IMO.
i am hoping cleveland takes him so we do not have to think about it. i am on the fence about the kid

Hagen, they all scare me. 1 wrong pick at any position that high that don't work out sets a team back, sometimes for years. Phillips to me could be had in the late 2nd to 3rd round and not as much of a risk as being a 1st. I'm looking at more solid picks without all the hype than the risky ones. The other guy I listed Williams he is a sleeper pick I like and wouldn't cost an arm and leg to coach up. Resigning Bunkley suprized the he!! out of me and Jenkins hasn't stepped up as of yet. NT has to get fixed or it will be last season all over again.

jeanpierre 03-27-2015 06:40 AM

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This is my Third Day Special...

2015 NFL Draft diaries 1.0: Deon Simon - NFL.com

Deon Simon draft diary 2.0: Surprise Belichick meeting - NFL.com

jeanpierre 03-27-2015 06:57 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Guess it's no secret who I'm crushing on for the draft; since the combine, it's been Beasley for those new to the planet...

Figure we've got to get to either WAS fifth pick or NYJ sixth pick to make it happen...

It'll have to be announced at the time of the draft to minimize counter offers from CHI, ATL and to be sure that he's there when we move up...

Reviewing the Trade Value Chart for reference...

2014 NFL Draft Trade Value Chart

We'd have to trade both our 1's, BUT we would have to insist on a swap of Second round picks to increase the likelihood we get our MLB in round 2 (my preference is fellow Clemson alum, Stephone Anthony)...

Can't help but question that we traded Graham to Seattle just because of a 28 year old Center or just to send a msg to our troops; can't help but think the TVC was factored in the decision...


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