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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jnormand Lastly why is everyone complaining about Lofton all the time? The guy had 17 tackles yesterday and leads the team in tackles. He's got 127 on the season with three games left. Give the guy a ...
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12-08-2014, 12:35 PM | #11 |
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Re: What changes would you make?
Originally Posted by jnormand
Because he's poor in coverage and also misses a lot of tackles.
But we could do worse, much worse. I think Lofton would be a good fit in a true 3-4 as a Mike where his coverage responsibilities are limited. Also flanking him with some speed would surely help. He's a keeper, but I'd say he's pretty close to a 2-down LB. He's also rated as the 2nd worst defender on our team, just ahead of Vaccaro. |
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12-08-2014, 12:37 PM | #12 |
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Re: What changes would you make?
You don't (*edit*) fire Payton. You fire the ones who are making him look bad.
Again, let's see if he has the balls to do it. I still remember him holding on to Gary Gibbs a couple seasons too long... |
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12-08-2014, 12:39 PM | #13 |
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Re: What changes would you make?
I don't have problem with Harbaugh's temper and personality. I have problem with his coaching and play calling (roman). You will be calling for Payton after first Harbaugh game.
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12-08-2014, 12:40 PM | #14 |
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Re: What changes would you make?
I just had this conversation with a friend of mines.
I believe that unless being worthy of being mentioned in the Hall of Fame a Head Coach has a shelf life of around 10 years before the NFL will begin to catch up to their system. Sean is coming up on 10 years and it seems like that explosive offense just isnt explosive anymore save for a few games here or there. Also I would definetely change training camp. I felt like some bad was going to happen when I was hearing about other teams putting in work at training camp but every time i heard about the Saints camp it was always regarding a "Quarterback challenge" or these "Prank Wars" between Payton and Brees. From the outside looking in i felt like camp just wasnt being taken as serious as it should have been |
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Re: What changes would you make?
BUT, we still have a chance at the division and us winning it is better than any of the alternatives. Time to focus on a Chicago team that is in just as much turmoil. |
12-08-2014, 12:51 PM | #16 |
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Re: What changes would you make?
Originally Posted by dizzle88
We were not a finesse team when GW was here. They were ruthlessly aggressive, and some would say it was because of the bounty but that's bull****. GW took a group of average to below average players and made them work. Those teams would fight get knocked down only to get right back up and fight some more. Ruthless aggression is what this team lacks. Rob Ryan hasn't brought it, maybe it's because of the position coaches but GW had the same guys too.
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Re: What changes would you make?
Let Carmichael call plays.
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12-08-2014, 12:55 PM | #18 |
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Re: What changes would you make?
Originally Posted by Mardigras9
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, but take a good hard look at the playcalling and offensive philosophies we've seen the last two years. This is not the same man who won us a Super Bowl. He's not innovative anymore. He doesn't have the same edge.
Remember the coach who came in in 2005 and promptly traded Donte Stallworth and replaced him with a 7th-round draft pick, was not afraid to make the tough veteran cuts and built one of the most unique offenses the league has ever seen. Can you honestly say that is the same Sean Payton we are looking at now? Love Sean. LOVE HIM. For real. But there comes a time for everyone to move on. Maybe now is his time. No hate here, just a realization that now is now 5 years ago, or even 3 years ago. This org needs new blood. |
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Re: What changes would you make?
Originally Posted by blackangold
Very true, I remember in 2010 when Jo-lonn dunbar started at MLB for us and played great.
So many comeback wins those seasons. |
12-08-2014, 01:38 PM | #20 |
Re: What changes would you make?
Tomlin is a real good coach and has had not so good seasons. I don't see him being considered as having lost it. Of course, he does have Lebeau as DC. It makes a difference. It's talent that has waned and wiffed. Changes are due and he can right the ship.
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